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you make some good points, but most of this is just uninformed opinions on various google products.

by ditojim 15y ago

akarambir 15y ago
Uninformed opinions on various google products. Can you give an example?
- gchucky 15y ago
  Here's one that struck me: "Its earlier attempts – Orkut, Buzz, Wave failed." It's true that Buzz and Wave failed, but Orkut is very popular - in Brazil and India. Not being popular in Western countries != failure.
  - akarambir 15y ago
    Sir, I'm from India and I can assure you that Orkut is dead. Almost everyone has shifted to facebook in last two years. I have an orkut account and haven't opened it since last winter.
  - flyt 15y ago
    Facebook passed Orkut in India and has either already or nearly overtaken it in Brasil.
- jackarleth 15y ago
  You seem to have a strong opinion on Google+, yet you don't understand the 'grand' concept of Google+. What Google is trying to do with Google+ is take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords. Google wants to integrate Google+ into all of it's products, starting with Youtube and give all the Google products a uniform experience. I'm flabbergasted that you have a problem with this since this is the main goal for Apple. (I assume that you have Apple products, since you talk in such lengths and positive manner of Siri) Google+ is also not about a social graph, it's about doing social media the right, natural way. You also don't understand how Adwords works when you talk about Siri. A 'click' is a hit to the page, be it a click, enter, wget, or voice search of Siri. So searches in Google with Siri will earn Google money. Also iOS uses Google Maps as it's map application so Siri uses Google Maps, you just don't see it. A last inaccuracy: “Don’t try to do something in everything. Rather focus on doing everything in something.” This would be exactly why Google has been stopping so many of it's products. Next to these points there is a whole lot of stuff that you are simply wrong about. Edit: changed positivism to a correct use of words
  - dextorious 15y ago
    """What Google is trying to do with Google+ is take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords. Google wants to integrate Google+ into all of it's products, starting with Youtube and give all the Google products a uniform experience.""" Which part of the article gives you the impression that the author doesn't understand that? He specifically calls this integration, and his problem is that it is done badly. """I'm flabbergasted that you have a problem with this since this is the main goal for Apple.""" Wait what? Apple goal is to "take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords."???? Even if you replace adwords with something else, like iAds, this doesn't make sense. """(I assume that you have Apple products, since you talk in such lengths and positivism of Siri) Google+ is also not about a social graph, it's about doing social media the right, natural way.""" In what way is Google+ more "natural" than Facebook? Also, "positivism": you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. """You also don't understand how Adwords works when you talk about Siri. A 'click' is a hit to the page, be it a click, enter, wget, or voice search of Siri. So searches in Google with Siri will earn Google money.""" No, they wont. This doesn't even make sense. For one, Siri could bypass Google altogether --the user is using primarily Siri, not Google, so the results could come from anywhere. Second, even if Google is queried, Siri hides the Google results page and just returns the appropriate result as a spoken list. Do you really believe people would pay if their ads are now shown to the end user? """Also iOS uses Google Maps as it's map application so Siri uses Google Maps, you just don't see it.""" I'd guess the author is well aware of this. Are you aware that Apple has bough a mapping company and is looking to integrate its own maps in a future iOS release?
    - true_religion 15y ago
      > Wait what? Apple goal is to "take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords."???? He was talking about this "give all the Google products a uniform experience". Apple gives all their products a uniform experience as well.
    - cargo8 15y ago

you make some good points, but most of this is just uninformed opinions on various google products.

by ditojim 15y ago

you make some good points, but most of this is just uninformed opinions on various google products.

akarambir 15y ago

Uninformed opinions on various google products. Can you give an example?

gchucky 15y ago
Here's one that struck me: "Its earlier attempts – Orkut, Buzz, Wave failed." It's true that Buzz and Wave failed, but Orkut is very popular - in Brazil and India. Not being popular in Western countries != failure.
- akarambir 15y ago
  Sir, I'm from India and I can assure you that Orkut is dead. Almost everyone has shifted to facebook in last two years. I have an orkut account and haven't opened it since last winter.
- flyt 15y ago
  Facebook passed Orkut in India and has either already or nearly overtaken it in Brasil.
jackarleth 15y ago
You seem to have a strong opinion on Google+, yet you don't understand the 'grand' concept of Google+. What Google is trying to do with Google+ is take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords. Google wants to integrate Google+ into all of it's products, starting with Youtube and give all the Google products a uniform experience. I'm flabbergasted that you have a problem with this since this is the main goal for Apple. (I assume that you have Apple products, since you talk in such lengths and positive manner of Siri) Google+ is also not about a social graph, it's about doing social media the right, natural way. You also don't understand how Adwords works when you talk about Siri. A 'click' is a hit to the page, be it a click, enter, wget, or voice search of Siri. So searches in Google with Siri will earn Google money. Also iOS uses Google Maps as it's map application so Siri uses Google Maps, you just don't see it. A last inaccuracy: “Don’t try to do something in everything. Rather focus on doing everything in something.” This would be exactly why Google has been stopping so many of it's products. Next to these points there is a whole lot of stuff that you are simply wrong about. Edit: changed positivism to a correct use of words
- dextorious 15y ago
  """What Google is trying to do with Google+ is take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords. Google wants to integrate Google+ into all of it's products, starting with Youtube and give all the Google products a uniform experience.""" Which part of the article gives you the impression that the author doesn't understand that? He specifically calls this integration, and his problem is that it is done badly. """I'm flabbergasted that you have a problem with this since this is the main goal for Apple.""" Wait what? Apple goal is to "take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords."???? Even if you replace adwords with something else, like iAds, this doesn't make sense. """(I assume that you have Apple products, since you talk in such lengths and positivism of Siri) Google+ is also not about a social graph, it's about doing social media the right, natural way.""" In what way is Google+ more "natural" than Facebook? Also, "positivism": you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. """You also don't understand how Adwords works when you talk about Siri. A 'click' is a hit to the page, be it a click, enter, wget, or voice search of Siri. So searches in Google with Siri will earn Google money.""" No, they wont. This doesn't even make sense. For one, Siri could bypass Google altogether --the user is using primarily Siri, not Google, so the results could come from anywhere. Second, even if Google is queried, Siri hides the Google results page and just returns the appropriate result as a spoken list. Do you really believe people would pay if their ads are now shown to the end user? """Also iOS uses Google Maps as it's map application so Siri uses Google Maps, you just don't see it.""" I'd guess the author is well aware of this. Are you aware that Apple has bough a mapping company and is looking to integrate its own maps in a future iOS release?
  - true_religion 15y ago
    > Wait what? Apple goal is to "take hold of the information market that resides within social media and use this information in combination with adwords."???? He was talking about this "give all the Google products a uniform experience". Apple gives all their products a uniform experience as well.
  - cargo8 15y ago