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Maybe that attitude is why you haven't been "discovered" ;) Take the meeting, it'll be good for your career.

by tofuahdude 4y ago

giantg2 4y ago
Nah, it doesn't matter. They only care about who puts in a ton of extra hours.
- omginternets 4y ago
  That really isn't true. I second the opinion that you should take that meeting. It's part of the job. It's how you make sure you're working on the right thing, and that execs know it. That said, it's totally fair to not want to climb the latter beyond a certain point. But, you seem a bit bitter, so perhaps that's not your case.
- sokoloff 4y ago
  As an exec, I don’t care in the least about hours. I do care about results and outcomes, of course, but if you achieve more for the company in 2 hours per week than what someone else does in 40, you are more valuable to the company.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    My company is big on "engagement" and they measure that in extra hours.
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      Ugh. I think a lot of engineers could deliver more in 30 well-focused hours while being well rested than those same engineers could do in 50 or 60 hours per week. More hours for creative work (beyond a certain point) doesn’t generally give more value.
- IMTDb 4y ago
  I am an exec at my company. I really do not care about the hours you put in. I care about the results that get out. Basically, I care about what you are able to EXECute. I will admit tho that it is easier to do more when working more, but the time is not what I measure.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    My company is big on "engagement" and they measure that in extra hours.
    - omginternets 4y ago
      If you speak with executives, you'll find that the explicit game is not the real game. In other words: if you find yourself being measured by the official measures, you are already losing. It's easy to be cynical about this, but it's a universal truth, even outside of work life. Knowing the difference between the official game and the game actually being is part of being competent at whatever it is you're doing. Often, the real game is better, healthier and more productive than the two-dimensional rulebook you're given.

Maybe that attitude is why you haven't been "discovered" ;) Take the meeting, it'll be good for your career.

giantg2 4y ago

Nah, it doesn't matter. They only care about who puts in a ton of extra hours.

omginternets 4y ago
That really isn't true. I second the opinion that you should take that meeting. It's part of the job. It's how you make sure you're working on the right thing, and that execs know it. That said, it's totally fair to not want to climb the latter beyond a certain point. But, you seem a bit bitter, so perhaps that's not your case.
sokoloff 4y ago
As an exec, I don’t care in the least about hours. I do care about results and outcomes, of course, but if you achieve more for the company in 2 hours per week than what someone else does in 40, you are more valuable to the company.
- giantg2 4y ago
  My company is big on "engagement" and they measure that in extra hours.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    Ugh. I think a lot of engineers could deliver more in 30 well-focused hours while being well rested than those same engineers could do in 50 or 60 hours per week. More hours for creative work (beyond a certain point) doesn’t generally give more value.
IMTDb 4y ago
I am an exec at my company. I really do not care about the hours you put in. I care about the results that get out. Basically, I care about what you are able to EXECute. I will admit tho that it is easier to do more when working more, but the time is not what I measure.
- giantg2 4y ago
  My company is big on "engagement" and they measure that in extra hours.
  - omginternets 4y ago
    If you speak with executives, you'll find that the explicit game is not the real game. In other words: if you find yourself being measured by the official measures, you are already losing. It's easy to be cynical about this, but it's a universal truth, even outside of work life. Knowing the difference between the official game and the game actually being is part of being competent at whatever it is you're doing. Often, the real game is better, healthier and more productive than the two-dimensional rulebook you're given.