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The most shocking thing in this article is that SF actually prosecuted a retail theft case and went so far as to get DNA? This is not the SF Fox News has been t

The most shocking thing in this article is that SF actually prosecuted a retail theft case and went so far as to get DNA? This is not the SF Fox News has been telling me about.

olivermarks 4y ago
It was arguably one of ex DA Boudin's stunts to make 'the system' look bad. Boudin was on life support pre recall at this point in history and found the SFPD dna evidence issue which was a questionable use case of that data at best. The woman had been arrested on suspicion of a felony property crime, with police identifying her based on rape-kit evidence she gave as a victim, part of a giant San Francisco only dna data bank her data was in and she matched to. Given how incredibly hard Boudin made it for what is left of the SFPD to prevent crime this is one of those 'everyone loses' current realities
- braingenious 4y ago
  It’s fascinating how people will contort their brains to make every obviously shitty thing that SFPD does somehow the fault of their political boogeyman. Can you point out the evidence that Boudin instructed the SFPD to use DNA evidence in the investigation of retail theft? Like is there a memo from the DA saying “I, Chesa Boudin, instruct you to collect DNA evidence for retail thefts, and make sure to mash the rape victim database up with the criminal database!” I have never seen a group so fervently pro-police on this site as the pro-SFPD group (and I do not mean the anti-Boudin group, I mean the group that is critical of anyone that doesn’t tow the “poor SFPD, we would live in a utopia if only they had unlimited power” line.) edit: Typos
  - olivermarks 4y ago
    I was saying quite the opposite to 'Boudin instructed the SFPD to use DNA evidence in the investigation of retail theft'. What I actually attempted to say was the SFPD's questionable use of dna data was seized on by Boudin who was fighting for his political life at this point and amplified it as a weapon vs the SFPD. We all lose because rape kit dna shouldn't be in the pool of felon dna data, the police were being impeded by Boudin at every turn resulting in inappropriate policing methods to try and get a federal case through. The streets of San Francisco are no longer safe for anyone as a result of this fiasco with the SFPD understaffed and relunctant to do much for fear of being on the wrong side of criminal advocate activists legal challenges....
    - braingenious 4y ago
      > Boudin at every turn resulting in inappropriate policing methods to try and get a federal case through. Your point is that the lack of evidence that Boudin was involved in this is the proof that this is his fault? Is there any scenario where anything SFPD does that’s shitty isn’t his fault? Edit: When were the streets of San Francisco “safe” exactly? I wasn’t there during this horrible period between 2020 and 2022 but in 72 hours in SF a few years back: -I saw people buying oxy from a guy in a tent, about ten feet from an occupied parked cop car -About eight guys “running a train” (taking turns having penetrative sex) with a woman in an alley whilst they all smoked crack -A woman taking a shit out of the window of a moving bus -I was chased by a homeless man for five blocks because I only gave him a dollar and he kept demanding “more” -I was forced to accept a dvd of truly depraved pornography at a bus stop -I saw an adult shop openly selling cocaine -Countless people shitting on the street Does Chesa Boudin have a time machine? It sounds like I experienced exactly what the SFPD superfans say he caused. Edit 2: This was during Garcon’s tenure.
candiodari 4y ago
Unless this is the police just grasping at straws to arrest someone and DNA evidence provided some link (no-one identified her at the scene), which is just wrong, the police knows it, but they have a connection and thus, maybe, a conviction ...

The most shocking thing in this article is that SF actually prosecuted a retail theft case and went so far as to get DNA? This is not the SF Fox News has been telling me about.

olivermarks 4y ago

It was arguably one of ex DA Boudin's stunts to make 'the system' look bad. Boudin was on life support pre recall at this point in history and found the SFPD dna evidence issue which was a questionable use case of that data at best. The woman had been arrested on suspicion of a felony property crime, with police identifying her based on rape-kit evidence she gave as a victim, part of a giant San Francisco only dna data bank her data was in and she matched to. Given how incredibly hard Boudin made it for what is left of the SFPD to prevent crime this is one of those 'everyone loses' current realities

braingenious 4y ago
It’s fascinating how people will contort their brains to make every obviously shitty thing that SFPD does somehow the fault of their political boogeyman. Can you point out the evidence that Boudin instructed the SFPD to use DNA evidence in the investigation of retail theft? Like is there a memo from the DA saying “I, Chesa Boudin, instruct you to collect DNA evidence for retail thefts, and make sure to mash the rape victim database up with the criminal database!” I have never seen a group so fervently pro-police on this site as the pro-SFPD group (and I do not mean the anti-Boudin group, I mean the group that is critical of anyone that doesn’t tow the “poor SFPD, we would live in a utopia if only they had unlimited power” line.) edit: Typos
- olivermarks 4y ago
  I was saying quite the opposite to 'Boudin instructed the SFPD to use DNA evidence in the investigation of retail theft'. What I actually attempted to say was the SFPD's questionable use of dna data was seized on by Boudin who was fighting for his political life at this point and amplified it as a weapon vs the SFPD. We all lose because rape kit dna shouldn't be in the pool of felon dna data, the police were being impeded by Boudin at every turn resulting in inappropriate policing methods to try and get a federal case through. The streets of San Francisco are no longer safe for anyone as a result of this fiasco with the SFPD understaffed and relunctant to do much for fear of being on the wrong side of criminal advocate activists legal challenges....
  - braingenious 4y ago
    > Boudin at every turn resulting in inappropriate policing methods to try and get a federal case through. Your point is that the lack of evidence that Boudin was involved in this is the proof that this is his fault? Is there any scenario where anything SFPD does that’s shitty isn’t his fault? Edit: When were the streets of San Francisco “safe” exactly? I wasn’t there during this horrible period between 2020 and 2022 but in 72 hours in SF a few years back: -I saw people buying oxy from a guy in a tent, about ten feet from an occupied parked cop car -About eight guys “running a train” (taking turns having penetrative sex) with a woman in an alley whilst they all smoked crack -A woman taking a shit out of the window of a moving bus -I was chased by a homeless man for five blocks because I only gave him a dollar and he kept demanding “more” -I was forced to accept a dvd of truly depraved pornography at a bus stop -I saw an adult shop openly selling cocaine -Countless people shitting on the street Does Chesa Boudin have a time machine? It sounds like I experienced exactly what the SFPD superfans say he caused. Edit 2: This was during Garcon’s tenure.

candiodari 4y ago

Unless this is the police just grasping at straws to arrest someone and DNA evidence provided some link (no-one identified her at the scene), which is just wrong, the police knows it, but they have a connection and thus, maybe, a conviction ...