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It doesn't have to be something overt as leaving a log of DNA in the toilet. There could be skin cells left near stolen merchandise.

whatshisface 4y ago
So what you're saying is, if a burglar can find a hair on a sidewalk on their way to commit the crime, the prosecutor will tell the jury that there is a scientifically proven 99.999999999% chance that it wasn't them...
- freshpots 4y ago
  No because hair itself contains no DNA.
  - wahern 4y ago
    https://www.genomebc.ca/blog/forensics-breakthrough-dna-extracted-from-rootless-hair https://www.genomebc.ca/blog/forensics-breakthrough-dna-extr...
    - freshpots 4y ago
      TIL, thanks! Very interesting but complicated expensive, and limited to very specific cases. "Still, neither she nor Dr. Green thinks the technique is likely to be widely embraced any time soon. Forensic labs are not set up to implement it and it’s expensive. Each hair costs several thousand dollars to sequence, and that’s before hiring a genetic genealogist to try to identify its source."
- wahern 4y ago
  See the film, The Town (2010), where Ben Affleck runs by the local barbershop to collect hair to toss around at the crime scene. Though presumably the idea there was that all the local men, including the bank robbers, get their hair cut at that barbershop.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  plenty of ways to frame people, think about how anyone with access to a life insurance plan database can frame anybody for murder if the target "recently" opened a plan with someone they love (who is now dead) prosecutors and jury eat that up daily some serial killing contractor just has to sort by new, and there's probably some exposed S3 buckets or other Amazon datastores floating around
  - gremlinsinc 4y ago
    That'd actually make for a good movie or tv show, maybe breaking bad style. Insurance adjuster housewife struggling with a sick kid, starts running it as a side project to pay the bills or something, maybe she's in cahoots with the insurance company CEO, they do the murder for hire thing, and then frame the relative, and keep the insurance money for themselves. Or maybe instead of sort by new, they sort by highest risk (oldest/sickest) and find ways to frame the beneficiary.
    - yieldcrv 4y ago
      I think it would make for a good investigation for the Innocence Project But I’m not even sure how a new suspect would be caught Even the most obvious cases seem to rely on someone else confessing, often times after that someone else is in prison for something else
causi 4y ago
I would be truly impressed if that were the case. Most times you can barely get the police to show up for a burglary, let alone sequence DNA from dust near stolen objects.

whatshisface 4y ago

So what you're saying is, if a burglar can find a hair on a sidewalk on their way to commit the crime, the prosecutor will tell the jury that there is a scientifically proven 99.999999999% chance that it wasn't them...

freshpots 4y ago
No because hair itself contains no DNA.
- wahern 4y ago
  https://www.genomebc.ca/blog/forensics-breakthrough-dna-extracted-from-rootless-hair https://www.genomebc.ca/blog/forensics-breakthrough-dna-extr...
  - freshpots 4y ago
    TIL, thanks! Very interesting but complicated expensive, and limited to very specific cases. "Still, neither she nor Dr. Green thinks the technique is likely to be widely embraced any time soon. Forensic labs are not set up to implement it and it’s expensive. Each hair costs several thousand dollars to sequence, and that’s before hiring a genetic genealogist to try to identify its source."
wahern 4y ago
See the film, The Town (2010), where Ben Affleck runs by the local barbershop to collect hair to toss around at the crime scene. Though presumably the idea there was that all the local men, including the bank robbers, get their hair cut at that barbershop.
yieldcrv 4y ago
plenty of ways to frame people, think about how anyone with access to a life insurance plan database can frame anybody for murder if the target "recently" opened a plan with someone they love (who is now dead) prosecutors and jury eat that up daily some serial killing contractor just has to sort by new, and there's probably some exposed S3 buckets or other Amazon datastores floating around
- gremlinsinc 4y ago
  That'd actually make for a good movie or tv show, maybe breaking bad style. Insurance adjuster housewife struggling with a sick kid, starts running it as a side project to pay the bills or something, maybe she's in cahoots with the insurance company CEO, they do the murder for hire thing, and then frame the relative, and keep the insurance money for themselves. Or maybe instead of sort by new, they sort by highest risk (oldest/sickest) and find ways to frame the beneficiary.
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    I think it would make for a good investigation for the Innocence Project But I’m not even sure how a new suspect would be caught Even the most obvious cases seem to rely on someone else confessing, often times after that someone else is in prison for something else

causi 4y ago

I would be truly impressed if that were the case. Most times you can barely get the police to show up for a burglary, let alone sequence DNA from dust near stolen objects.