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That term 'antivaxxer' does not mean what you imply it to mean. Those who are cautious about using largely untested preparations while being open to using well-

That term 'antivaxxer' does not mean what you imply it to mean. Those who are cautious about using largely untested preparations while being open to using well-known vaccines - against Polio, Measles, Diphtheria, Whooping Cough, Tetanus and others - are not 'antivaxxers', they are 'rational individuals'. There is a wide gap between this group and 'traditional antivaxxers' who worry about 5G-transponders in vaccines (etc) so using a term which most people assume to identify the latter to accuse the former is not just erroneous but also disingenuous, just the type of word game which has become so prevalent in the last decade.

mikeyouse 4y ago
Yes, yes, all just a word game. You're just asking intelligent rational questions, unlike those antivaxxers of lore with their bad faith. Meanwhile the top thread on Reddit discussing that specific article is in the subreddit "NurembergTwo" and titled: "Shocking study finds covid vaccines REWRITE your DNA… criminal CDC proven to have repeatedly LIED about this very issue to deceive and harm the public" If you're basing your theory of harm from vaccines on bad articles from non-experts in fringe journals, there might be less distance between you and the 5G nutters than you wish to acknowledge
- the_third_wave 4y ago
  Two words: Ad Hominem [1] Do you have anything else to say apart from trying to paint others with your broad brush? I did ask for some constructive arguments after all, not baseless character attacks. As it stands now I can only assume you don't have rational arguments (other than 'my experts are better/more virtuous than your experts' but that is not much of an argument). [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ad-hominem https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ad-homin...
base698 4y ago
I don't eat goat meat, but love brisket. Doesn't that make me an antimeat vegan?

mikeyouse 4y ago

Yes, yes, all just a word game. You're just asking intelligent rational questions, unlike those antivaxxers of lore with their bad faith. Meanwhile the top thread on Reddit discussing that specific article is in the subreddit "NurembergTwo" and titled: "Shocking study finds covid vaccines REWRITE your DNA… criminal CDC proven to have repeatedly LIED about this very issue to deceive and harm the public" If you're basing your theory of harm from vaccines on bad articles from non-experts in fringe journals, there might be less distance between you and the 5G nutters than you wish to acknowledge

the_third_wave 4y ago
Two words: Ad Hominem [1] Do you have anything else to say apart from trying to paint others with your broad brush? I did ask for some constructive arguments after all, not baseless character attacks. As it stands now I can only assume you don't have rational arguments (other than 'my experts are better/more virtuous than your experts' but that is not much of an argument). [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ad-hominem https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ad-homin...

base698 4y ago

I don't eat goat meat, but love brisket. Doesn't that make me an antimeat vegan?