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That’s not entirely true. They gameafy some aspects for sure, but that’s just about accessibility. You can run it like a full sim and there are great videos of

That’s not entirely true. They gameafy some aspects for sure, but that’s just about accessibility. You can run it like a full sim and there are great videos of real Boeing pilots talking about it. Even the old flight sim was so advanced MSFT had contracts with the French military for their mapping tech from the game specifically. This is back in the day now.

GekkePrutser 4y ago
To be fair, you do have to buy some expensive addons to make it that realistic. Most of the buttons in the included boeing don't work at all.
asciimike 4y ago
Here's a great example of why the flight model is... lacking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX9lTvKuqU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX9lTvKuqU It's perfectly fine for most things, but _really_ bad with things that could actually kill you. Meanwhile, in X-Plane land: https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/02/x-plane-12-flight-model-update-supersonic-transition-delta-wings-and-mass-properties/ https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/02/x-plane-12-flight-mode...
- cypress66 4y ago
  Not only that video is very old (there have been multiple improvements), people that are even remotely serious don't use the default aircraft which are always awful, they buy payware aircraft that are much better modeled.
- daviding 4y ago
  Fans are tribal. Recent reviews shows practically no difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzokcKkEyuE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzokcKkEyuE
- Applejinx 4y ago
  There is no comparison to X-Plane land <3
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  "The flight model" is kind of inaccurate when it comes to MSFS. They've always used a system that allows the aircraft developer significant authority to make their aircraft as simulated or gamified as they want. IE, a pmdg boeing will be hugely better simulated than the built in boeing.
  - asciimike 4y ago
    This is true in X-Plane as well though, right? I would kinda expect a better default Cessna model, though I admit that most people probably aren't going to either flight sim for lots of time in a Cessna (though I'd actually be really curious to know what % of planes are flown what what amount of time).

GekkePrutser 4y ago

To be fair, you do have to buy some expensive addons to make it that realistic. Most of the buttons in the included boeing don't work at all.

asciimike 4y ago

Here's a great example of why the flight model is... lacking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX9lTvKuqU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX9lTvKuqU It's perfectly fine for most things, but _really_ bad with things that could actually kill you. Meanwhile, in X-Plane land: https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/02/x-plane-12-flight-model-update-supersonic-transition-delta-wings-and-mass-properties/ https://developer.x-plane.com/2022/02/x-plane-12-flight-mode...

cypress66 4y ago
Not only that video is very old (there have been multiple improvements), people that are even remotely serious don't use the default aircraft which are always awful, they buy payware aircraft that are much better modeled.
daviding 4y ago
Fans are tribal. Recent reviews shows practically no difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzokcKkEyuE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzokcKkEyuE
Applejinx 4y ago
There is no comparison to X-Plane land <3
mrguyorama 4y ago
"The flight model" is kind of inaccurate when it comes to MSFS. They've always used a system that allows the aircraft developer significant authority to make their aircraft as simulated or gamified as they want. IE, a pmdg boeing will be hugely better simulated than the built in boeing.
- asciimike 4y ago
  This is true in X-Plane as well though, right? I would kinda expect a better default Cessna model, though I admit that most people probably aren't going to either flight sim for lots of time in a Cessna (though I'd actually be really curious to know what % of planes are flown what what amount of time).