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> Nearly every country in Europe has been invading its neighbors for centuries We don't need to go into that long history. Most of these CEE countries have bee
by The_Colonel 4y ago
> Nearly every country in Europe has been invading its neighbors for centuries
We don't need to go into that long history. Most of these CEE countries have been invaded by Russia in the last 100 years.
> It’s not unexpected that the former Warsaw Pact countries would want to join. It is surprising to see the US being so short-sighted to allow these expansions considering that several of its own diplomats and foreign policy experts were warning against it.
It actually worked out well. Not letting e.g. Baltics into NATO/EU would almost certainly mean they have been already absorbed back into Russia. The rest of CEE would be vassalized.
- gdy 4y ago"Not letting e.g. Baltics into NATO/EU would almost certainly mean they have been already absorbed back into Russia. The rest of CEE would be vassalized." Why?
- MichaelCollins 4y agoBecause Russia has a recent and current track record of behaving this way.
- gdy 4y agoYou too are trying to justify NATO expansion by Russian reaction to it.
- The_Colonel 4y agoNot necessarily. Most of the new members have been invaded by Russia in the past 100 years.
- gdy 4y agoAnd Russia has been invaded by most of the European countries in the same time period. Starting from the Intervention and Poland's invasion to the invasion by Germany and its allies.
- The_Colonel 4y agoYou're deflecting. The point is that CEE countries had a valid reason to fear Russian imperialism and acted accordingly.
- gdy 4y agoYou're deflecting. I remind you that I asked 'Why?' in response to your bold statement "Not letting e.g. Baltics into NATO/EU would almost certainly mean they have been already absorbed back into Russia. The rest of CEE would be vassalized."
- The_Colonel 4y agoAnd I responded to you that Russia has both long and recent history of imperialism in this region.
- gdy 4y agoJust like almost anyone else which makes it a deflection and not an answer.
- The_Colonel 4y agoNo, the countries in question have been recently threatened only by Russia. The only other recent aggressor was by that point completely pacified Germany.
- gdy 4y agoAgain, you are justifying an action by the reaction to it.
- The_Colonel 4y agoNo, these aggressions happened in the recent history (< 100 years) before NATO accessions. Once in NATO, these countries were off limits (= main lure of the membership).