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Are you even watching this? They're talking about foreign agents running amok on the inside (even after Twitter being notified by the FBI), lack of logging, mi

Are you even watching this? They're talking about foreign agents running amok on the inside (even after Twitter being notified by the FBI), lack of logging, mishandling of email addresses, etc, etc. Bots or no bots, all of that stuff is kind of a big deal.

encryptluks2 4y ago
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- colinmhayes 4y ago
  It's really not hard to find evidence of twitter security fuck ups. Multiple Saudi nationals have given up dissident information to the saudi government because of their access to twitter's internal geolocation tools. One of them fled the country after twitter told him the FBI was investigating him. Twitter practically forced everyone to give them their phone number and then leaked the numbers. The list goes on.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    Are you kidding me? The major credit bureaus have had just as many fuck ups. You don't see congress doing anything to fix it. There was a major utility shutdown due to security issues where they paid a ransom. Did you see Congress doing anything? This isn't exclusive to Twitter. Congress will use any situation to push their opportunistic rhetoric, and for them Twitter a social media company is more important to spread their propaganda than a credit bureau breach where everyone's personal data is compromised. What values does that show and teach, and why is that your talking point?
    - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
      Who are you arguing for, and why?
      - encryptluks2 4y ago
        I'm arguing for the people, who are you arguing for?
        aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        > and why Anyway. I feel I'm doing the same by promoting responsible disclosure of unethical treatment of people's data. Did you even look at the guy's frigging Wikipedia page yet?! I just feel like we're talking past each other. Reading through rest of thread...Is this a Musk-related thing for you?
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        > Did you even look at the guy's frigging Wikipedia page yet?! Of course, but a Wikipedia page is not immune from bias nor does it provide unfettered credibility. I recall the same tactics and approaches being utilized in users pushing an agenda for Wikileaks, suggesting that they were basically perfect and incapable of doing any wrong and that Assange could do no harm. I don't give anyone a God-like status. > Reading through rest of thread...Is this a Musk-related thing for you? No, this is a personal experience kind of thing. I see this type of situation quite often where a topic will get people are riled up based on their political and personal biases and skew their critical-thinking ability to actually analyze the situation. If congress was actually concerned about people's data, they would have actually put forth efforts to enact some reasonable legislation that didn't just apply to whatever platform they feel the most censored on.
        aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        Right, wrong, indifferent, Congress sits on ass until lobbyists pay them to move, or someone shames them into action. So, again, following you — but I don't even know if I care in this instance because the enemy of my enemy (Twitter & any other entity acting trustworthy with people's data when knowing you're not worth the trust) is my friend.
- zhxshen 4y ago
  Mudge isn't a politician, has an excellent reputation, and would probably be much happier if Twitter just had its shit together in the first place so he doesn't have to kick-off a whistlestop tour on the subpoena train. First stop: getting grilled for 2h40m by geriatric attorneys & faded beauty queens. In other words, I see no reason for him to lie about any of this.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    - zhxshen 4y ago
      Comparing Mudge to a cop... Just Say No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiter_Zatko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiter_Zatko
      - encryptluks2 4y ago
        Again, many similar people can build a positive public reputation but that doesn't mean they are immune from criticism or bad decision-making later in life. Epstein had a good reputation at one point. Larry Nasar had a good reputation at one point. Doesn't prevent people from doing bad things to further their own self-interests.
        aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        > Epstein had a good reputation at one point. With you? He never did with me.
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        By former Presidents, CEOs, Prince's, etc. Glad you never got too close to him as there is no telling what kind of situation you'd end up in.
  - sangnoir 4y ago
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
Given Twitter's centrality in the flow of information, it would be unreasonable to not expect foreign agents (along with extremists of every flavor, financial fraud artists, and who knows what else) to try to get inside. The same is true of Facebook and Google.
- zhxshen 4y ago
  Foreign agents run amok before an FBI warning: sure, shit happens. Foreign agents still running amok after an FBI warning: WTF?!
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    I'm not sure SoftBank/KSA is super concerned about "foreign agents" inside their company.
    - zhxshen 4y ago
      apparently so

encryptluks2 4y ago

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colinmhayes 4y ago
It's really not hard to find evidence of twitter security fuck ups. Multiple Saudi nationals have given up dissident information to the saudi government because of their access to twitter's internal geolocation tools. One of them fled the country after twitter told him the FBI was investigating him. Twitter practically forced everyone to give them their phone number and then leaked the numbers. The list goes on.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Are you kidding me? The major credit bureaus have had just as many fuck ups. You don't see congress doing anything to fix it. There was a major utility shutdown due to security issues where they paid a ransom. Did you see Congress doing anything? This isn't exclusive to Twitter. Congress will use any situation to push their opportunistic rhetoric, and for them Twitter a social media company is more important to spread their propaganda than a credit bureau breach where everyone's personal data is compromised. What values does that show and teach, and why is that your talking point?
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    Who are you arguing for, and why?
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      I'm arguing for the people, who are you arguing for?
      - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        > and why Anyway. I feel I'm doing the same by promoting responsible disclosure of unethical treatment of people's data. Did you even look at the guy's frigging Wikipedia page yet?! I just feel like we're talking past each other. Reading through rest of thread...Is this a Musk-related thing for you?
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        > Did you even look at the guy's frigging Wikipedia page yet?! Of course, but a Wikipedia page is not immune from bias nor does it provide unfettered credibility. I recall the same tactics and approaches being utilized in users pushing an agenda for Wikileaks, suggesting that they were basically perfect and incapable of doing any wrong and that Assange could do no harm. I don't give anyone a God-like status. > Reading through rest of thread...Is this a Musk-related thing for you? No, this is a personal experience kind of thing. I see this type of situation quite often where a topic will get people are riled up based on their political and personal biases and skew their critical-thinking ability to actually analyze the situation. If congress was actually concerned about people's data, they would have actually put forth efforts to enact some reasonable legislation that didn't just apply to whatever platform they feel the most censored on.
        aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        Right, wrong, indifferent, Congress sits on ass until lobbyists pay them to move, or someone shames them into action. So, again, following you — but I don't even know if I care in this instance because the enemy of my enemy (Twitter & any other entity acting trustworthy with people's data when knowing you're not worth the trust) is my friend.
zhxshen 4y ago
Mudge isn't a politician, has an excellent reputation, and would probably be much happier if Twitter just had its shit together in the first place so he doesn't have to kick-off a whistlestop tour on the subpoena train. First stop: getting grilled for 2h40m by geriatric attorneys & faded beauty queens. In other words, I see no reason for him to lie about any of this.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  - zhxshen 4y ago
    Comparing Mudge to a cop... Just Say No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiter_Zatko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peiter_Zatko
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      Again, many similar people can build a positive public reputation but that doesn't mean they are immune from criticism or bad decision-making later in life. Epstein had a good reputation at one point. Larry Nasar had a good reputation at one point. Doesn't prevent people from doing bad things to further their own self-interests.
      - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
        > Epstein had a good reputation at one point. With you? He never did with me.
        encryptluks2 4y ago
        By former Presidents, CEOs, Prince's, etc. Glad you never got too close to him as there is no telling what kind of situation you'd end up in.
- sangnoir 4y ago

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

Given Twitter's centrality in the flow of information, it would be unreasonable to not expect foreign agents (along with extremists of every flavor, financial fraud artists, and who knows what else) to try to get inside. The same is true of Facebook and Google.

zhxshen 4y ago
Foreign agents run amok before an FBI warning: sure, shit happens. Foreign agents still running amok after an FBI warning: WTF?!
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  I'm not sure SoftBank/KSA is super concerned about "foreign agents" inside their company.
  - zhxshen 4y ago
    apparently so