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People were forced to get it or lose their jobs.
by gfodor 4y ago
People were forced to get it or lose their jobs.
- turndown 4y agoThis is an incredibly common expectation, and the only reason people took exception to it is because they dislike the government telling them what to do. Interesting I never heard from grandpa rail against the military for the vaccinations he was forced to get in the military...
- OrangeMonkey 4y agoYou are comparing the volunteer military, an organization where the government controls its enlistees every move / food / clothing literally all parts of their life... to the life of an every day citizen?
- gfodor 4y agoNo, it was unprecedented to tell people to take an emergency authorized drug of a highly experimental nature or lose their jobs. It was always a gamble. I took it, knowing it was a gamble, since COVID was very dangerous. We forced people to gamble. It was criminal.
- treeman79 4y agoOr those of who got the virus before the vaccine. Now we’re demonized for not wanting to double dip.
- undersuit 4y agoGood, there's no evidence of long-term immunity after an infection or a vaccination. Hence the boosters.
- peteradio 4y ago> no evidence of long-term immunity after an infection Define immunity, but there is absolutely evidence of long term effectiveness against hospitilization and death if you care to look for it. "No evidence" doesn't mean we looked for it and it doesn't exist, it means we didn't look for it yet or have chosen not to look into it. In this case you seem to be citing ancient talking points from before it was possible to tell how long lasting the immunity from covid would be, AKA in early 2021 they couldn't state for fact that immunity against severe death would last longer than a year because the disease itself was too new, (although sar-cov1 was known to have long lasting immunity 10 years later, but lets pretend we didn't know that it would work the same). Now we know because the disease has been around long enough to gather those types of statistics.
- undersuit 4y agoSo you have some evidence to the contrary?
- peteradio 4y agoSure, here's hopefully a helpful summary but you can search for your own primary sources. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting... > Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied. Take the above snippet for example. From this you could make the statement "we don't have evidence for natural immunity lasting beyond 8 months" But that is explicitly a limit coming from the length of study.
- jjoonathan 4y agoGood. You want the right to breathe virus particles all over me so that you can avoid basic safety measures? Sorry, my sympathy ends where my lungs begin.
- elenaferrantes 4y agoVaccinated people spread viruses, what do you mean ?
- jjoonathan 4y agoIs drunk driving perfectly OK because sober driving also sometimes results in accidents?
- gfodor 4y agoYou smuggled in two assumptions: - That forcing people to take a drug authorized under EUA with a relatively novel technology is a "basic safety measure" - That people who didn't comply with this "basic" measure are not breathing virus particles all over you I'll leave it to you to decide how good these assumptions are.
- scarface74 4y agoWere you not forced to take certain vaccines before going to school?
- gfodor 4y agoNot all vaccines are the same. For example, I was never forced to take a vaccine to go to school that wasn't approved by the FDA.