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Audio plugin developer says he’s found proof mathematics was “formed”

4 points by pier25 4y ago

spiorf 4y ago
This reminds me of an episode of "Person of Interest" where a teacher tries to spark interest in his students by telling that all their life past and future events are already "encoded" in PI digits. https://youtu.be/a6bT_DVwo7M https://youtu.be/a6bT_DVwo7M
pier25 4y ago
Sorry for editing the title. There was no way I could fit the original title in the number of characters. Here's the mathematical proof (according to the author) https://github.com/avaneev/prvhash#proof_math_is_engineered https://github.com/avaneev/prvhash#proof_math_is_engineered
eimrine 4y ago
Seems like author had done some decent cryptorgaphical research by the time he has gone mad and added "other thoughts" paragraph and several next ones. Former part of work was decent and latter is mad. I like this sentence from not decent part of work: > For the author personally, everything is proven here.
- pier25 4y ago
  Could you try to simplify his flawed reasoning? I'm not much of a math person.
  - eimrine 4y ago
    I think every human has a right to have some opinions. His statements are extraordinary but he clearly segregates that from rest of the work and always tells that this is his opinion. I do not going to criticize the developer or his work because he just wrote something in his github, I do not feel a needness to go deeper. Maybe not the best place for sharing such statements, but not the worst as well. Maybe, if to make the calculations he is talking about, something really interesting will expose, but this is not I am going to do, despite I have some interest in learning cryptographic hash functions. To tell the truth, that part of his work which I call decent seams to be much more interesting/promising for me than just the opinion, and I recommend everybody to spend more time on learning something decent - like cryptographic hash-functions and unlike somebody's opinions.
    - pier25 4y ago
      Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean you should criticize his opinion. I'd just like to understand better on what mathematical basis he is basing his opinion.
abrax3141 4y ago
I think he goes off the edge here: “the program "reads data" directly from the entropy pool which is "encoded" into the mathematics from its inception, like any mathematical constant is (e.g. PI).”

4 points by pier25 4y ago

This reminds me of an episode of "Person of Interest" where a teacher tries to spark interest in his students by telling that all their life past and future events are already "encoded" in PI digits. https://youtu.be/a6bT_DVwo7M https://youtu.be/a6bT_DVwo7M

pier25 4y ago

Sorry for editing the title. There was no way I could fit the original title in the number of characters. Here's the mathematical proof (according to the author) https://github.com/avaneev/prvhash#proof_math_is_engineered https://github.com/avaneev/prvhash#proof_math_is_engineered

eimrine 4y ago

Seems like author had done some decent cryptorgaphical research by the time he has gone mad and added "other thoughts" paragraph and several next ones. Former part of work was decent and latter is mad. I like this sentence from not decent part of work: > For the author personally, everything is proven here.

pier25 4y ago
Could you try to simplify his flawed reasoning? I'm not much of a math person.
- eimrine 4y ago
  I think every human has a right to have some opinions. His statements are extraordinary but he clearly segregates that from rest of the work and always tells that this is his opinion. I do not going to criticize the developer or his work because he just wrote something in his github, I do not feel a needness to go deeper. Maybe not the best place for sharing such statements, but not the worst as well. Maybe, if to make the calculations he is talking about, something really interesting will expose, but this is not I am going to do, despite I have some interest in learning cryptographic hash functions. To tell the truth, that part of his work which I call decent seams to be much more interesting/promising for me than just the opinion, and I recommend everybody to spend more time on learning something decent - like cryptographic hash-functions and unlike somebody's opinions.
  - pier25 4y ago
    Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean you should criticize his opinion. I'd just like to understand better on what mathematical basis he is basing his opinion.

abrax3141 4y ago

I think he goes off the edge here: “the program "reads data" directly from the entropy pool which is "encoded" into the mathematics from its inception, like any mathematical constant is (e.g. PI).”