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If you click on the "Politics" tag (which the author has attached to the article...), you'll quickly learn why. They are a fan of free speech == unrestricted s

If you click on the "Politics" tag (which the author has attached to the article...), you'll quickly learn why. They are a fan of free speech == unrestricted speech. Most larger ecosystems these days have a code of conduct, restricting some forms of expression if they are deemed detrimental to the community. Something that very much riles advocates of unrestricted speech. Often, having a code of conduct is conflated with social justice activism - a movement that is prominently lamented in US politics more so than Europe. Note: I'm not interested in debating which side is right here, or if that conflating of positions makes sense. Just pointing out the likely origin of the "microcosm" comment.

phillipcarter 4y ago
There's a lot of players involved in the Scala OSS drama. You can read about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/scala/comments/9a11p1/newbie_wondering_about_the_history_of_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/scala/comments/9a11p1/newbie_wonder... Suffice to say there's a lot of people at each others' throats, and it probably won't get better.
- sp33der89 4y ago
  That thread is 4 years old...I wouldn't say that's reflective of the current situation, nor do I find "probably won't get better" a great take, because the Scala OSS situation tries to not-repeat-mistakes. Hell the worst thing the Scala Discord deals with it are spambots!
  - phillipcarter 4y ago
    Well, since then various factions that emerged have only come to hate each other more, a prominent "middle ground" member of the community disappeared after accusations that he was a sexual abuser, and the ecosystem seems to have firmly split between Zio and Cats, so I wouldn't exactly say things have gotten better.
    - sp33der89 4y ago
      > since then various factions that emerged have only come to hate each other more There are (recent) threads out there on the interwebs were people suggest using Cats Effect or ZIO(or as a better Python) without it being hateful. And there are enough people not going at each other because of some effect library. I am not saying everything is good, there is enough room for improvement, but I feel like you have an outdated view of the Scala ecosystem. For example "ecosystem firmly split between ZIO and Cats" doesn't ring true either, there are tools/libraries like, scala-cli and Mill or tapir coming out that offer a more pragmatic experience, without locking you down to the pure FP dogmatism. > a prominent "middle ground" member of the community disappeared after accusations that he was a sexual abuser Yes, this stirred up a lot of controversy and I found this indeed a failure of the Scala community, I don't think that means things haven't gotten better though.

phillipcarter 4y ago

There's a lot of players involved in the Scala OSS drama. You can read about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/scala/comments/9a11p1/newbie_wondering_about_the_history_of_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/scala/comments/9a11p1/newbie_wonder... Suffice to say there's a lot of people at each others' throats, and it probably won't get better.

sp33der89 4y ago
That thread is 4 years old...I wouldn't say that's reflective of the current situation, nor do I find "probably won't get better" a great take, because the Scala OSS situation tries to not-repeat-mistakes. Hell the worst thing the Scala Discord deals with it are spambots!
- phillipcarter 4y ago
  Well, since then various factions that emerged have only come to hate each other more, a prominent "middle ground" member of the community disappeared after accusations that he was a sexual abuser, and the ecosystem seems to have firmly split between Zio and Cats, so I wouldn't exactly say things have gotten better.
  - sp33der89 4y ago
    > since then various factions that emerged have only come to hate each other more There are (recent) threads out there on the interwebs were people suggest using Cats Effect or ZIO(or as a better Python) without it being hateful. And there are enough people not going at each other because of some effect library. I am not saying everything is good, there is enough room for improvement, but I feel like you have an outdated view of the Scala ecosystem. For example "ecosystem firmly split between ZIO and Cats" doesn't ring true either, there are tools/libraries like, scala-cli and Mill or tapir coming out that offer a more pragmatic experience, without locking you down to the pure FP dogmatism. > a prominent "middle ground" member of the community disappeared after accusations that he was a sexual abuser Yes, this stirred up a lot of controversy and I found this indeed a failure of the Scala community, I don't think that means things haven't gotten better though.