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All the autopilots in the world aren't keeping a plane to within an inch in all three dimensions. It'd be nice, but turbulence is a thing :) More importantly,

All the autopilots in the world aren't keeping a plane to within an inch in all three dimensions. It'd be nice, but turbulence is a thing :) More importantly, actual position isn't that important - you care about relative acceleration being as close to 0g as you can. And with the 3-pilot setup the A310 zero g flights have, they maintain +/- 0.02g. Now you add to that the fact that developing an autopilot you can trust in that situation costs a good chunk of money, the fact that it's a specially modified plane (so it's more or less a one-off effort), and the fact that pilot costs are negligible compared to the rest of the flight cost. At this point, you can get a minimal increase in precision for a large expenditure up front. You'll still have the 3-pilot setup (you want to be able to recover on malfunction), so operational costs aren't reduced. At that point, the question becomes "why would you"

rbanffy 4y ago
The “easy” way to do it is to mandate autopilots to have the capability for precise ballistic trajectories. This would need better positioning, accelerometers, and meteorological radars and would also enable fully autonomous landings (if the plane can be aware of air densities and speeds around it, it can nail the landing even with wind gusts).
- groby_b 4y ago
  Wait what? If your landings are a ballistic trajectory, kindly step away from that stick ;) And that's kind of the point - nobody except the few planes that fly parabolic trajectories needs this. So good luck mandating something affecting all of aviation with no practical use except for a handful of flights. Autoland already exists. And can handle crosswinds up to 25kts. It's just that using them is an incredibly intense task - your reaction time to fix mistakes is a bit short. That's why most landings are still manual, unless visibility is so bad that you have no choice. (Also, the idea that meteorological radar could give you enough info about air density to preemptively handle air gusts is... a bold future)
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    I didn’t say parabolic landings. I said the same capabilities required to fully automate parabolic flights would allow safer landings because precise trajectory control even when there is turbulence around the plane is a very desirable feature. On second thought, it could pay for itself in preventing aborted landings.
- jaywalk 4y ago
  Most passenger airliners flying today can land automatically, but are only allowed to do so when visibility is so bad that it's the only option. It's called CAT III Autoland.

rbanffy 4y ago

The “easy” way to do it is to mandate autopilots to have the capability for precise ballistic trajectories. This would need better positioning, accelerometers, and meteorological radars and would also enable fully autonomous landings (if the plane can be aware of air densities and speeds around it, it can nail the landing even with wind gusts).

groby_b 4y ago
Wait what? If your landings are a ballistic trajectory, kindly step away from that stick ;) And that's kind of the point - nobody except the few planes that fly parabolic trajectories needs this. So good luck mandating something affecting all of aviation with no practical use except for a handful of flights. Autoland already exists. And can handle crosswinds up to 25kts. It's just that using them is an incredibly intense task - your reaction time to fix mistakes is a bit short. That's why most landings are still manual, unless visibility is so bad that you have no choice. (Also, the idea that meteorological radar could give you enough info about air density to preemptively handle air gusts is... a bold future)
- rbanffy 4y ago
  I didn’t say parabolic landings. I said the same capabilities required to fully automate parabolic flights would allow safer landings because precise trajectory control even when there is turbulence around the plane is a very desirable feature. On second thought, it could pay for itself in preventing aborted landings.
jaywalk 4y ago
Most passenger airliners flying today can land automatically, but are only allowed to do so when visibility is so bad that it's the only option. It's called CAT III Autoland.