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I don't think the storage levels are very helpful without usage information. For that, I'd prefer: https://agsi.gie.eu https://agsi.gie.eu

pydry 4y ago
Storage + usage isnt enough either. The picture is only clear with storage + production + LNG import capacity + usage + population.
- zibby8 4y ago
  Why LNG specifically? There are other sources of pipeline gas that aren’t coming from Russia.
  - steve_adams_86 4y ago
    What are other sources of pipeline gas? Where I live everything is LNG so I figured that all there is. What else can be transported and used in LNG lines?
    - sveme 4y ago
      Norway and the Netherlands are the largest provider of pipeline gas to Germany at the moment, for example.
      - MomoXenosaga 4y ago
        The Netherlands is switching off. Serendipity: just before Ukraine war the political decision was made to end gas extraction. Germany is not happy about that.
        raarts 4y ago
        And neither are a lot of Dutch at the moment...
    - iSnow 4y ago
      Algeria is one source of pipeline gas in Southern Europe
      - petre 4y ago
        Algeria has already cut its exports to Spain because the Sanchez gov't supports Morocco's peace arbitrage in Western Sahara. Libya is in the middle of a civil war and the Russians are backing up Khalifa Haftar's LNA, who controls most of the territory, oil and gas fields. Thus Northern Africa is not such a reliable source.
    - rich_sasha 4y ago
      Gas pipelines across Europe are quite fragmented. I understand Iberian peninsula is as-good-as cut off from the rest of the continent. I can't imagine there is much capacity going from Italy across the Alps. So if you want to ship gas to an arbitrary location, it's more likely to be LNG.
1ris 4y ago
You can see how steep the curves are now (mostly without russian supply), and how steep the typically are, to get some general idea. I don't think you can get more than some gut feeling anyway, as I don't think you can model such highly dynamic model that mostly depends on the weather in four months.

pydry 4y ago

Storage + usage isnt enough either. The picture is only clear with storage + production + LNG import capacity + usage + population.

zibby8 4y ago
Why LNG specifically? There are other sources of pipeline gas that aren’t coming from Russia.
- steve_adams_86 4y ago
  What are other sources of pipeline gas? Where I live everything is LNG so I figured that all there is. What else can be transported and used in LNG lines?
  - sveme 4y ago
    Norway and the Netherlands are the largest provider of pipeline gas to Germany at the moment, for example.
    - MomoXenosaga 4y ago
      The Netherlands is switching off. Serendipity: just before Ukraine war the political decision was made to end gas extraction. Germany is not happy about that.
      - raarts 4y ago
        And neither are a lot of Dutch at the moment...
  - iSnow 4y ago
    Algeria is one source of pipeline gas in Southern Europe
    - petre 4y ago
      Algeria has already cut its exports to Spain because the Sanchez gov't supports Morocco's peace arbitrage in Western Sahara. Libya is in the middle of a civil war and the Russians are backing up Khalifa Haftar's LNA, who controls most of the territory, oil and gas fields. Thus Northern Africa is not such a reliable source.
  - rich_sasha 4y ago
    Gas pipelines across Europe are quite fragmented. I understand Iberian peninsula is as-good-as cut off from the rest of the continent. I can't imagine there is much capacity going from Italy across the Alps. So if you want to ship gas to an arbitrary location, it's more likely to be LNG.

1ris 4y ago

You can see how steep the curves are now (mostly without russian supply), and how steep the typically are, to get some general idea. I don't think you can get more than some gut feeling anyway, as I don't think you can model such highly dynamic model that mostly depends on the weather in four months.