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Put a brick on the lid, bin guys take brick off, problem solved.

by HlessClaudesman 4y ago

bamboozled 4y ago
You really think they wouldn’t be able to knock the brick off ?
- deleted 4y ago
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aussiesnack 4y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2022/sep/13/cockies-got-too-clever-cockatoos-learn-to-push-bricks-off-wheelie-bins-video https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2022/sep/13...
defrost 4y ago
Clearly someone has never seen three yellow crested cockatoos working together to move a brick off of a wheely bin lid before ... that worked, like, five or six years ago for maybe a summer or two. See Article Title "Arms Race" Also, "bin guys" no longer get out of bin truck, it's a camera guided hydraulic arm that reaches out and lifts the bin these days- that leaves a problem with bricks littering the ground after truck passes down street. EDIT: See peer comment linked video|article !!
- aussiesnack 4y ago
  You can't expect non-Aussies to understand the ingeniousness of our birds. Like the maggie who can nick me precisely on the ear lobe exposed by my bike helmet. Or the Kookaburra who can swoop down to extract, mid flight, a slice of meat from a sandwich held by an unsuspecting tourist.
  - a_bonobo 4y ago
    Case in point: >Magpies Help Each Other Remove Tracking Devices, Thwart Scientists https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/331977-magpies-help-each-other-remove-tracking-devices-thwart-scientists https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/331977-magpies-help-each...
  - icelancer 4y ago
    Corvids in America are pretty similar. Very annoying and intelligent. On the other hand, can be pseudo-trained. Great birds.
    - aussiesnack 4y ago
      Similarly, Australian Ravens are great. Characterful and bright. The young have a great sense of fun and are entertaining to watch. I have seen them playing a game of chase round the garden, play-fighting over a prized mango leaf. Adults are oddly risk-averse given their heft. Smaller birds seem able to intimidate them quite easily.
      - mellavora 4y ago
        old bush pilots, bold bush pilots. Not sure what is odd about risk-aversion. How many times have you been injured?
        aussiesnack 4y ago
        Odd by comparison to the smaller magpies, currawongs, blue-faced honeyeaters & noisy miners that can so readily shoo them off. They're pretty shy with people too, which isn't true of many common urban birds. Though that shyness may have quite separate origins (humans being what they are and all that). I wonder if it's a behavioural strategy somehow related to their carrion-scavenging niche.
  - waste_monk 4y ago
    Or some of our predatory birds who deliberately propagate bushfires to drive their prey out of cover: https://www.bushheritage.org.au/newsletters/2020/winter/fire-birds https://www.bushheritage.org.au/newsletters/2020/winter/fire... This actually functions similar to a controlled burn and helps prevent larger, more devastating bushfires from occurring when too much fuel builds up, and also rejuvenates many kinds of plants for which fire is an essential part of its lifecycle. It's fascinating.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    > You can't expect non-Aussies to understand the ingeniousness of our birds. I mean, corvids are smart everywhere. And in America, properly motivated trash pandas will absolutely chuck your brick to access the bin.
  - cycomanic 4y ago
    Wait until you bring the NZ birds into the fray. Kea's will open the door of your caravan find the fridge and raid it.
ggm 4y ago
The article mentions people using cable ties to anchor bottles of water, and using sand shoes as a wedge on the hinge. Two adaptive techniques which get around the Cockie's ability to heave bricks off. The article also mentions the MEME quality of what technique is used in what suburb or street: the idea spreads by observation. What works in one street flows down the street. Another street may adopt a different technique. It's really quite an interesting article.
- MandieD 4y ago
  How long until one of them tries chewing through the cable ties? The shoes, however, probably will remain effective.
elsjaako 4y ago
From the article: > For example, one person commented: “Bricks seemed to work for a while, but cockies got too clever. Neighbours on other side of highway suggested sticks. They work.”
quickthrower2 4y ago
In Sydney typically (but not always) the bin truck has a robotic arm, the driver doesn't get out.
llamaLord 4y ago
Unfortunately you've just been beaten in the evolutionary arms race by a Cockatoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWjPaTMH0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWjPaTMH0E

Put a brick on the lid, bin guys take brick off, problem solved.

bamboozled 4y ago

You really think they wouldn’t be able to knock the brick off ?

deleted 4y ago
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aussiesnack 4y ago

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2022/sep/13/cockies-got-too-clever-cockatoos-learn-to-push-bricks-off-wheelie-bins-video https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2022/sep/13...

defrost 4y ago

Clearly someone has never seen three yellow crested cockatoos working together to move a brick off of a wheely bin lid before ... that worked, like, five or six years ago for maybe a summer or two. See Article Title "Arms Race" Also, "bin guys" no longer get out of bin truck, it's a camera guided hydraulic arm that reaches out and lifts the bin these days- that leaves a problem with bricks littering the ground after truck passes down street. EDIT: See peer comment linked video|article !!

aussiesnack 4y ago
You can't expect non-Aussies to understand the ingeniousness of our birds. Like the maggie who can nick me precisely on the ear lobe exposed by my bike helmet. Or the Kookaburra who can swoop down to extract, mid flight, a slice of meat from a sandwich held by an unsuspecting tourist.
- a_bonobo 4y ago
  Case in point: >Magpies Help Each Other Remove Tracking Devices, Thwart Scientists https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/331977-magpies-help-each-other-remove-tracking-devices-thwart-scientists https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/331977-magpies-help-each...
- icelancer 4y ago
  Corvids in America are pretty similar. Very annoying and intelligent. On the other hand, can be pseudo-trained. Great birds.
  - aussiesnack 4y ago
    Similarly, Australian Ravens are great. Characterful and bright. The young have a great sense of fun and are entertaining to watch. I have seen them playing a game of chase round the garden, play-fighting over a prized mango leaf. Adults are oddly risk-averse given their heft. Smaller birds seem able to intimidate them quite easily.
    - mellavora 4y ago
      old bush pilots, bold bush pilots. Not sure what is odd about risk-aversion. How many times have you been injured?
      - aussiesnack 4y ago
        Odd by comparison to the smaller magpies, currawongs, blue-faced honeyeaters & noisy miners that can so readily shoo them off. They're pretty shy with people too, which isn't true of many common urban birds. Though that shyness may have quite separate origins (humans being what they are and all that). I wonder if it's a behavioural strategy somehow related to their carrion-scavenging niche.
- waste_monk 4y ago
  Or some of our predatory birds who deliberately propagate bushfires to drive their prey out of cover: https://www.bushheritage.org.au/newsletters/2020/winter/fire-birds https://www.bushheritage.org.au/newsletters/2020/winter/fire... This actually functions similar to a controlled burn and helps prevent larger, more devastating bushfires from occurring when too much fuel builds up, and also rejuvenates many kinds of plants for which fire is an essential part of its lifecycle. It's fascinating.
- masklinn 4y ago
  > You can't expect non-Aussies to understand the ingeniousness of our birds. I mean, corvids are smart everywhere. And in America, properly motivated trash pandas will absolutely chuck your brick to access the bin.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  Wait until you bring the NZ birds into the fray. Kea's will open the door of your caravan find the fridge and raid it.

ggm 4y ago

The article mentions people using cable ties to anchor bottles of water, and using sand shoes as a wedge on the hinge. Two adaptive techniques which get around the Cockie's ability to heave bricks off. The article also mentions the MEME quality of what technique is used in what suburb or street: the idea spreads by observation. What works in one street flows down the street. Another street may adopt a different technique. It's really quite an interesting article.

MandieD 4y ago
How long until one of them tries chewing through the cable ties? The shoes, however, probably will remain effective.

elsjaako 4y ago

From the article: > For example, one person commented: “Bricks seemed to work for a while, but cockies got too clever. Neighbours on other side of highway suggested sticks. They work.”

quickthrower2 4y ago

In Sydney typically (but not always) the bin truck has a robotic arm, the driver doesn't get out.

llamaLord 4y ago

Unfortunately you've just been beaten in the evolutionary arms race by a Cockatoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWjPaTMH0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWjPaTMH0E