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Safety vs freedom. If we continue to conjure hypotheticals and remove responsibility from the individual then you will be the cause of the issue, not the soluti

Safety vs freedom. If we continue to conjure hypotheticals and remove responsibility from the individual then you will be the cause of the issue, not the solution. The overwhelming majority of transactions are not even cash anymore. I would not throw around the word "privledged" like a triangle that fits in every hole. Or else it loses it's intended meaning.

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kube-system 4y ago
This outcome is freedom. Adobe chose to voluntarily add CDS to photoshop. Their software, their choice. Nothing here is hypothetical. Scams exist precisely because they do fool people. To say that people “deserve” to be scammed is either a statement made from a malice or from a disconnect of the reality of who falls victim to scams. If someone has never even considered that someone’s disability (as one example) would make a person a target for a scam, then yes, I am very comfortable calling them privileged. Sloppy counterfeiters aren’t passing off fake bills to rich educated bankers, they’re handing them off to people they think will fall for it. They’re looking for people who look like they’ll make easy victims. These people don’t deserve to be cheated.
- kazinator 4y ago
  What I was referring to was something like people being scammed by someone who just scanned some paper money, did some image manipulation on it with their PC, then printed it on some 8.5x11 paper from Staples and cut it up. That's what Adobe is trying to prevent. A sophisticated counterfeiter won't be deterred by some "ethics theatre" in Adobe Photoshop.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Most counterfeits are shitty counterfeits. The common scheme isn't to print it on copy paper, though. The common scheme is to bleach low value notes and then print on that paper with a desktop printer. > In the last fiscal year, nearly 60 percent of the $88.7 million in counterfeit currency recovered in the U.S. was created using inkjet or laser printers, the Secret Service says. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-07/mom-with-hp-printer-shows-the-digital-ease-of-bogus-cash https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-07/mom-with-... Of course, Adobe is well aware that other image editing software exists. They did this not because they think they're going to save the world, they did it because: > "As a market leader and a good corporate citizen, this just seems like the right thing to do," > This is not something that is ever going to be an ironclad thing that prevents all usage. https://www.wired.com/2004/01/currency-detector-easy-to-defeat/ https://www.wired.com/2004/01/currency-detector-easy-to-defe...

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kube-system 4y ago

This outcome is freedom. Adobe chose to voluntarily add CDS to photoshop. Their software, their choice. Nothing here is hypothetical. Scams exist precisely because they do fool people. To say that people “deserve” to be scammed is either a statement made from a malice or from a disconnect of the reality of who falls victim to scams. If someone has never even considered that someone’s disability (as one example) would make a person a target for a scam, then yes, I am very comfortable calling them privileged. Sloppy counterfeiters aren’t passing off fake bills to rich educated bankers, they’re handing them off to people they think will fall for it. They’re looking for people who look like they’ll make easy victims. These people don’t deserve to be cheated.

kazinator 4y ago
What I was referring to was something like people being scammed by someone who just scanned some paper money, did some image manipulation on it with their PC, then printed it on some 8.5x11 paper from Staples and cut it up. That's what Adobe is trying to prevent. A sophisticated counterfeiter won't be deterred by some "ethics theatre" in Adobe Photoshop.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Most counterfeits are shitty counterfeits. The common scheme isn't to print it on copy paper, though. The common scheme is to bleach low value notes and then print on that paper with a desktop printer. > In the last fiscal year, nearly 60 percent of the $88.7 million in counterfeit currency recovered in the U.S. was created using inkjet or laser printers, the Secret Service says. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-07/mom-with-hp-printer-shows-the-digital-ease-of-bogus-cash https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-07/mom-with-... Of course, Adobe is well aware that other image editing software exists. They did this not because they think they're going to save the world, they did it because: > "As a market leader and a good corporate citizen, this just seems like the right thing to do," > This is not something that is ever going to be an ironclad thing that prevents all usage. https://www.wired.com/2004/01/currency-detector-easy-to-defeat/ https://www.wired.com/2004/01/currency-detector-easy-to-defe...