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What is sickening about a smooth transition of power? The main thing you seem to criticise is the ritual itself, which to me seems pretty normal, albeit grandi
by brutusborn 4y ago
What is sickening about a smooth transition of power?
The main thing you seem to criticise is the ritual itself, which to me seems pretty normal, albeit grandiose.
- MereInterest 4y agoThere's absolutely nothing sickening about smooth transitions of power between elected officials.
- rgavuliak 4y agoA considerable part of the US seems to disagree
- brutusborn 4y agoThere's no need for insinuation, if you dislike monarchies, just say so. If you dislike monarchies because of their power transition methods, I'd love to hear that reasoning.
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- whrobbins 4y ago"Smooth transition of power" is a good way to put it in the modern era. In centuries past, citizens would pray on their hands and knees for a system as quick and streamlined as this one. When there is ambiguity in who holds power, there is conflict, instability, bloodshed, etc. This is why countries used to throw enormous festivals celebrating the birth of a monarch's first-born son — it means the succession plan has become entirely unambiguous, and stability has been ensured for years to come.
- HyperSane 4y agoIt is sickening when the transition is from one unelected, parasitic, hereditary monarch to her child.
- Ekaros 4y agoAh, so we should do away with inheritance in general.
- HyperSane 4y agoYes, we should do away with all hereditary monarchies. That is a very good idea.
- brutusborn 4y agoAs I replied to the other poster, if you dislike monarchy then thats fine. But you're basically saying you don't like certain rituals because they remind you of a political system you despise, which is a hilariously roundabout way of shoehorning your hatred of monarchy into a thread.
- HyperSane 4y agoSilly rituals are a pretty big part of monarchies, IMHO because monarchs have always understood they have no legitimate right to rule so they use the pomp and circumstance as a form of fake legitimacy.
- austinjp 4y agoThe normalisation of the rituals is part of the problem. The public proclamations of the accession of Charles to King have included representatives of the state, military, police, and church. They have been made in public spaces. The mildest of protestations have resulted in arrests (albeit very few, and by seemingly confused police officers). For me, the issues here are around obeisance and imposition. Apparently it's fine and "normal" for some elite [1] class of people to march into public spaces and make declarations that cannot be challenged. The ornate outfits and ceremony are there to indicate a few things, the most obvious being that you are not one of them. In the strange post-modern Western world, pompous ceremonies come across as quaint and fun, another one of those bizarre things that the upper classes apparently get up to, silly them, aren't they funny hahaha. But it's not quaint, it's a public declaration that a tiny number of the ultra-priveleged still call the shots. Bizarrely it seems that we lap it up. The message is almost subliminal now: you're there and we're here, and that's the way it's going to stay. [1] I know the word elite is a dog-whistle but have you seen these dudes?? A more florid flaunting of elitism is hard to imagine.