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Yet another fucking term to attempt to shovel the blame for disinterest onto the worker, rather than the management and executives who have done every single th
by ok_dad 4y ago
Yet another fucking term to attempt to shovel the blame for disinterest onto the worker, rather than the management and executives who have done every single thing they can to optimize the worker to the cheapest point they could and cut them out of the decision process.
- ianai 4y agoThere's another term recently coined, too, "quiet firing." (I disagree as it's not particularly quiet.) This is when management singles out someone with loads of work, gaslighting, and generally constructively dismisses them but says they're not under the guise of the Performance Improvement Plan - and variations thereof.
- ok_dad 4y agoYea, I’ve been through that, even trained my replacement who was supposed to be a coworker.
- ianai 4y agoI'm very sorry. I've been through it, too. I suspect "quiet firing" has a much higher prevalence in the past/present than anything on the employee side.
- mc32 4y agoReminds me of the IT staff at UCSF who had to train their replacements… few months later they were having issues with their remote help and I believe they started recruiting a few locals with the bulk remaining non-local. I would have my team quit en-mass. I would not help dig my own grave with the promise of enhanced severance. Eff that! Training your replacements should be considered cruel and undue psychological burden on a fired worker (I mean outsourced staff).
- ianai 4y agoI think that usually flies because "if you quit then you don't get unemployment." For sure, it should be illegal. It'd be like me, as a consumer, trying to get Microsoft to teach Google how to make an Excel replacement under some support contract.
- mc32 4y agoI get it, but this is UCSF in SF a progressive city that talks the talk about worker rights. When push comes to shove, they don't care --it's all about money. ne way or the other. Anything, anything they do, makes money somewhere for someone. A significant portion of the IT staff at UCSF were long-time immigrants to the US, not that it should matter, but SF is about diversity. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/public-university-lays-off-79-it-workers-after-they-train-h-1b-replacements/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/public-universit...
- ok_dad 4y ago> SF is about diversity This is the straw-man various groups use when trying to bring down progressives, but SF is just a city with no political views, the people in it are who hold what views, and I would argue that SF is absolutely not progressive, and the idea that it is is just a continuation of that straw-man to this day. Anyways, on the topic, that was a shitty thing to do for UCSF and they shouldn't have done it.
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- kazen44 4y agothis alienation is nothing new, and has happened during the industrial revolution and subsequent rise of things like taylorism. There is a reason it is a main tenant in karl marx his writings[0] Ofcourse people are not going to go beyond and above when their job is churned into a mechanisation of actions in which one has little or no control or input. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation