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"I'm curious about how much of that is due to the charring that comes from grilling meat, or simply cooking meat to well-done, generating heterocyclic amines (H
by rsync 4y ago
"I'm curious about how much of that is due to the charring that comes from grilling meat, or simply cooking meat to well-done, generating heterocyclic amines (HCAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)."
I'll bet it's much more boring than any of that.
I'll bet it's all about fiber content and gut motility and nothing else.
- hinkley 4y agoIt seems like the whole 'bone broth' fad is based in part on realizing that diets 100 years ago had a lot more variety of animal-sourced compounds than we have now, where we have narrowed a lot of our intake to specific cuts of meat. Gout was a rich man's disease, caused by similar conditions. I'd love to see a study that separated diets where meat is an ingredient from those where meat is the main course.
- eternityforest 4y agoI keep hearing about organ means and bones and stuff, but there doesn't seem to be all that many studies. Some organs are full of all kinds of active stuff needed to do their jobs. Seems like eating liver especially(Is that a trend or just one youtuber?) would have some kind of effect, that might or might not be wanted. I think I'll stick with plants, but it would be great to see some actual science. Everyone just talks about nutrients and assumes more nutrients means more health, without citing anything.
- tpm 4y agoLiver is mostly fat and blood. Except for dogs, their liver contains lots of vitamin A, arctic explorers used to die of vit.A overdose, you can imagine why. Yeah too much nutrients is not good, also overdosing on iron can be pretty bad as the body can't shed iron, so it accumulates and causes bad stuff.
- hinkley 4y agoIf memory serves a bite of polar bear liver can have enough vitamin A to kill you.
- doener 4y agoWasn‘t gout mainly a rich man‘s disease because most common people died too early to develop an age disease?
- tpm 4y agoNo, rich people ate too much meat and overloaded their kidneys, poor people did not eat much meat.
- tpm 4y agoMy country (Slovakia) has the highest proportion of colorectal cancer in the world (together with perhaps South Korea and Hungary). Slovakia and Hungary like cured meats, sausages, bacon and pork. And alcohol. South Korea, well not that many cured meats, but some pork and alcohol. So small fiber content probably has some effect, but curing salts, red meat and alcohol are higher on my list.
- rendang 4y agoSouth Korea also eats a lot of fermented foods, plant-based and otherwise, which may be a factor
- tpm 4y agoPlant-based fermented food should be protective I hope? But possibly some types could be problematic, yes. Also various salted seafood etc.
- Footkerchief 4y agoA widely cited study shows high consumption of kimchi and soybean pastes as associated with ~1.6x greater risk of gastric cancer. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4316045/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4316045/
- tpm 4y agoThank you for the reference!