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“There’s evidence that Black boys are more likely to be suspended for the same behaviors as other children, right?” This feels like a statement that needs some

“There’s evidence that Black boys are more likely to be suspended for the same behaviors as other children, right?” This feels like a statement that needs some serious backing up, since the implication is that most teachers are racist. Assuming it true, then it’s pretty surprising how we can simultaneously call teachers heroes and racists without much debate.

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ramesh31 4y ago
> This feels like a statement that needs some serious backing up, since the implication is that most teachers are racist. Assuming it true, then it’s pretty surprising how we can simultaneously call teachers heroes and racists without much debate. The point is that this is an ingrained bias that is fundamental throughout our culture. No teacher says to themself “This kid is black, so therefore I will punish him more harshly because I am a racist”. It is far more sinister, subtle, and unconscious than that.
aidenn0 4y ago
> This feels like a statement that needs some serious backing up, since the implication is that most teachers are racist. Actually the implication is that some teachers and/or administrators are racist. If even one teacher is racist, then that would skew the numbers a tiny bit. "Some members of X profession are racist" is almost certainly true for any X.
tstrimple 4y ago
This seems like a good place to start: https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-why-really-are-so-many-black-kids-suspended/2021/08 https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-why-really-are-so-... It references multiple studies which show evidence that this discrepancy in disciplinary action is not due to a difference in offenses committed by black students. It's probably not a coincidence that we see these same sort of harsher penalty in the justice system for sentencing of black folks for committing the same crimes committed by white folk. It's the same systemic issues at play.

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ramesh31 4y ago

> This feels like a statement that needs some serious backing up, since the implication is that most teachers are racist. Assuming it true, then it’s pretty surprising how we can simultaneously call teachers heroes and racists without much debate. The point is that this is an ingrained bias that is fundamental throughout our culture. No teacher says to themself “This kid is black, so therefore I will punish him more harshly because I am a racist”. It is far more sinister, subtle, and unconscious than that.

aidenn0 4y ago

> This feels like a statement that needs some serious backing up, since the implication is that most teachers are racist. Actually the implication is that some teachers and/or administrators are racist. If even one teacher is racist, then that would skew the numbers a tiny bit. "Some members of X profession are racist" is almost certainly true for any X.

tstrimple 4y ago

This seems like a good place to start: https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-why-really-are-so-many-black-kids-suspended/2021/08 https://www.edweek.org/leadership/opinion-why-really-are-so-... It references multiple studies which show evidence that this discrepancy in disciplinary action is not due to a difference in offenses committed by black students. It's probably not a coincidence that we see these same sort of harsher penalty in the justice system for sentencing of black folks for committing the same crimes committed by white folk. It's the same systemic issues at play.