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When you swipe back on the trackpad to go back on my M1 MacBook Air, you must wait for the animation to end before taking any other action. That means there's b

When you swipe back on the trackpad to go back on my M1 MacBook Air, you must wait for the animation to end before taking any other action. That means there's basically a 0.5 second lag every time you go back. This is unacceptable. Safari for the Mac has had this issue for years and I am honestly shocked that Apple haven't fixed it. It means that they themselves don't use their own product.

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olliej 4y ago
I would suspect it's more gesture based navigation is uncommon among engineers/technical folk vs cmd+[,]. That said the animation shouldn't be stopping other actions - that's imo the issue with any kind of animation triggered by UI actions in general.
jorl17 4y ago
Over the last 5 years I have been through, in that order: - Safari - Chrome - Safari - Firefox - Safari - Firefox I keep trying to stick to Safari because of the resource usage and OS integration, but it just becomes unusable. Very very very slow. Difficult to integrate decent extensions or alternatives (e.g. RedditEnhancementSuite, Ublock Origin), and a distinct feeling of sluggishness. I have changed back to firefox (in the last 3 months) after 7 or 8 months trying to use Safari again. I just couldn't deal with it anymore. A pity, really. I just checked, and I have usage statistics (from the Timing app) on application usage since September 2017. Chrome: 54% Firefox: 32% Safari: 13% These stats are inherently a bit skewed because I still use chrome for some development, or firefox. So Chrome should come a bit down and Safari go a bit up. Also, my overall browsing usage has decreased and the data isn't adjusted for that. I used to be in "the browser" a lot more when I used chrome than now. I don't intend to go back to chrome. I can't stand google, and at the time what really tipped me over the edge (to Safari) was how awful their integration with the macOS play controls were. Chrome would assume putting or taking my airpods from my ears was the same as pressing play/pause, regardless of anything else. So sometimes I'd put them in my ears and videos would stop. Sometimes they'd start. Whatever. It was a mess. I guess I'll keep being a Firefox user. I'm so tired of moving passwords around.........
dmitriid 4y ago
> I am honestly shocked that Apple haven't fixed it. It means that they themselves don't use their own product Because MacOS has been a continuous parade of "useless, distracting and disruptive dribbble-level eye candy over functionality". See a similar thing in the newly updated Books.app: https://grumpy.website/post/0XvIhpmaj https://grumpy.website/post/0XvIhpmaj
masswerk 4y ago
This may be related to general UI animations. I'm on an M1 MB Air as well (Big Sur) and it works instantly for me without any intermediate animations. Try Preferences > Accessibility > Display > Reduce transparency. (This has consequences on how menus are rendered and the Dock will look a bit less nice, and you'll loose this blurry, semi-transparent overscroll in Safari, but you get an overall cleaner and more responsive UI.) Edit: No, I just tried with full transparencies enabled, but I still get no animation and no delays. That's not it.
- Jcowell 4y ago
  Maybe it’s reduce motion.
skybrian 4y ago
I don't get it. After moving to the previous page, doesn't it take you at least half a second to decide what to do next? What are you doing?

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olliej 4y ago

I would suspect it's more gesture based navigation is uncommon among engineers/technical folk vs cmd+[,]. That said the animation shouldn't be stopping other actions - that's imo the issue with any kind of animation triggered by UI actions in general.

jorl17 4y ago

Over the last 5 years I have been through, in that order: - Safari - Chrome - Safari - Firefox - Safari - Firefox I keep trying to stick to Safari because of the resource usage and OS integration, but it just becomes unusable. Very very very slow. Difficult to integrate decent extensions or alternatives (e.g. RedditEnhancementSuite, Ublock Origin), and a distinct feeling of sluggishness. I have changed back to firefox (in the last 3 months) after 7 or 8 months trying to use Safari again. I just couldn't deal with it anymore. A pity, really. I just checked, and I have usage statistics (from the Timing app) on application usage since September 2017. Chrome: 54% Firefox: 32% Safari: 13% These stats are inherently a bit skewed because I still use chrome for some development, or firefox. So Chrome should come a bit down and Safari go a bit up. Also, my overall browsing usage has decreased and the data isn't adjusted for that. I used to be in "the browser" a lot more when I used chrome than now. I don't intend to go back to chrome. I can't stand google, and at the time what really tipped me over the edge (to Safari) was how awful their integration with the macOS play controls were. Chrome would assume putting or taking my airpods from my ears was the same as pressing play/pause, regardless of anything else. So sometimes I'd put them in my ears and videos would stop. Sometimes they'd start. Whatever. It was a mess. I guess I'll keep being a Firefox user. I'm so tired of moving passwords around.........

dmitriid 4y ago

> I am honestly shocked that Apple haven't fixed it. It means that they themselves don't use their own product Because MacOS has been a continuous parade of "useless, distracting and disruptive dribbble-level eye candy over functionality". See a similar thing in the newly updated Books.app: https://grumpy.website/post/0XvIhpmaj https://grumpy.website/post/0XvIhpmaj

masswerk 4y ago

This may be related to general UI animations. I'm on an M1 MB Air as well (Big Sur) and it works instantly for me without any intermediate animations. Try Preferences > Accessibility > Display > Reduce transparency. (This has consequences on how menus are rendered and the Dock will look a bit less nice, and you'll loose this blurry, semi-transparent overscroll in Safari, but you get an overall cleaner and more responsive UI.) Edit: No, I just tried with full transparencies enabled, but I still get no animation and no delays. That's not it.

Jcowell 4y ago
Maybe it’s reduce motion.

skybrian 4y ago

I don't get it. After moving to the previous page, doesn't it take you at least half a second to decide what to do next? What are you doing?