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True diversity would mean having to accept, even welcome, a MAGA wearing redneck onto the board of a black university. Therefore diversity discussions (almost a
by RobertRoberts 4y ago
True diversity would mean having to accept, even welcome, a MAGA wearing redneck onto the board of a black university. Therefore diversity discussions (almost always) are not about "diversity for everyone", but instead it's social cudgel for one side to use against another.
- jrajav 4y agoSorry, no it doesn't. The point under discussion is affirmative action, that is, specifically targeting and aiding underrepresented groups, so you're just misunderstanding the premise in the first place - but also, to say 'a MAGA wearing redneck' and 'black university' specifically, you clearly get that it's a racist in a race-specific context. The thing nearly everyone tries to gloss over when they pull this "Well why don't you let more conservatives in then" is that many front-and-center conservative platforms these days are explicitly intolerant. Why should you be surprised or upset when tolerant institutions seek to reject those? It's a feature of modern civil society, not a liberal conspiracy.
- RobertRoberts 4y agoThat is exactly my point, "diversity" by its very definition can't also mean exclusion. If it does, who's rules for exclusion are you using? (a diverse set of rules?) This is the problem with this discussion, I can't stand MAGA ideals, I think they are ridiculous, but you assumed I support it because I used it to point out a flaw in a popular (but flawed) idea. It's a very real example to show true diversity can't exist in our society across diverse groups.