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24h x 30 days x .5kW x 0.25 CHF/kWh gives me 90 CHF a month to run my PC, assuming it never sleeps. Have you run the calculation? It's worthwhile configuring s

24h x 30 days x .5kW x 0.25 CHF/kWh gives me 90 CHF a month to run my PC, assuming it never sleeps. Have you run the calculation? It's worthwhile configuring suspend for PCs these days. My 3090 never seems to go below 120W, for one thing.

maccard 4y ago
And double that number if you're in the UK.
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nightski 4y ago
I use suspend on my PC and I definitely do not run it 24h, or anywhere close to that. Also power is $0.08/kWh where I live.
- gambiting 4y ago
  That's insanely cheap power, use it while you can. I'm paying £0.40/kWh, so about 46 cents per kWh.
- brewdad 4y ago
  Really? My power is some of the cheapest in the country and we pay ~13 cents/kWh. It's a little misleading though since my bill breaks out generation and distribution costs into separate line items. They are both billed per kWH though and add up to 13 cents.
  - nightski 4y ago
    Yes. We have a fixed basic connection charge of $20. So it's really close to your $0.13/kWh when that is taken into account. I wasn't trying to be misleading though because the point is the basic charge does not increase with usage. So for each additional kWh we add to that it's only $0.089/kWh.
    - brewdad 4y ago
      No, that's fair. I have an additional basic charge too. Congrats on the cheap power.
loeg 4y ago
> 500W 500W is a very high average power consumption. And my electricity is 0.13 USD/kWh, which is about half 0.25 CHF/kWh. True average power is probably below 100W, for a total cost in the realm of 10 CHF or USD per month.
- Someone 4y ago
  In the USA, for a significant part of the year, chances are you have to add the electricity costs of running your airconditioning to get rid of that heat. If you’re living in a colder state, you may have to subtract the costs of having lower heating costs.
  - loeg 4y ago
    Sure, although it's not a ton of heat either way and doesn't make a large impact on the net cost.
- epolanski 4y ago
  The lowest contract you can get in italy is 40 cents. Also, consuming more energy is bad and this rush to apologize lack of innovation in gpu and cpus weve seen in the last decade is ridiculous. Where does it end? I'm okay with a 5000cc truck because airplanes and cruise ships are much worse?
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    the last 2-3 generations of cpus and gpus have seen the most innovation, efficiency, and performance gains in a long time. If you don't want to drive a 5l truck, don't drive one, but 500W is not an average load, and if you have high electricity costs thats a you problem not an everyone else problem. The largest parts of my electrical bill are distribution and overhead charges that don't change whether I use power or not. The marginal utility of the power vs the cost is quite reasonable.
    - epolanski 4y ago
      You and me are seeing very different news if you dont see midrange gpus consumimg 250w under load and cpus getting over 100. The performance gains are non existent and largely driven by bigger and bigger chips on smaller nodes. There is no innovation in gpu and x86 cpus space since a long time, that happens only on arm nowadays.
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xani_ 4y ago
The fuck are those calculations ? Are you trying to mislead people on purpose? Who is running their computer at 500W 24/7 ?
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
> 24h x 30 days x .5kW No modern PC should be pulling 500W all the time. Idle power can be as low as 20-30W depending on the build. You should also allow it to sleep, of course. > My 3090 never seems to go below 120W, for one thing. Something is wrong. A 3090 should only pull about 20 Watts at idle: https://www.servethehome.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-review-a-compute-powerhouse/7/ https://www.servethehome.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-review-... . You might have some process forcing it into full-speed 3D mode for some reason.
- hulitu 4y ago
  Windows indexing service.
bufferoverflow 4y ago
500W 24/7 consumption? What do you do? Train ML non-stop? Your example is in now representative of reality.

maccard 4y ago

And double that number if you're in the UK.

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nightski 4y ago

I use suspend on my PC and I definitely do not run it 24h, or anywhere close to that. Also power is $0.08/kWh where I live.

gambiting 4y ago
That's insanely cheap power, use it while you can. I'm paying £0.40/kWh, so about 46 cents per kWh.
brewdad 4y ago
Really? My power is some of the cheapest in the country and we pay ~13 cents/kWh. It's a little misleading though since my bill breaks out generation and distribution costs into separate line items. They are both billed per kWH though and add up to 13 cents.
- nightski 4y ago
  Yes. We have a fixed basic connection charge of $20. So it's really close to your $0.13/kWh when that is taken into account. I wasn't trying to be misleading though because the point is the basic charge does not increase with usage. So for each additional kWh we add to that it's only $0.089/kWh.
  - brewdad 4y ago
    No, that's fair. I have an additional basic charge too. Congrats on the cheap power.

loeg 4y ago

> 500W 500W is a very high average power consumption. And my electricity is 0.13 USD/kWh, which is about half 0.25 CHF/kWh. True average power is probably below 100W, for a total cost in the realm of 10 CHF or USD per month.

Someone 4y ago
In the USA, for a significant part of the year, chances are you have to add the electricity costs of running your airconditioning to get rid of that heat. If you’re living in a colder state, you may have to subtract the costs of having lower heating costs.
- loeg 4y ago
  Sure, although it's not a ton of heat either way and doesn't make a large impact on the net cost.
epolanski 4y ago
The lowest contract you can get in italy is 40 cents. Also, consuming more energy is bad and this rush to apologize lack of innovation in gpu and cpus weve seen in the last decade is ridiculous. Where does it end? I'm okay with a 5000cc truck because airplanes and cruise ships are much worse?
- LegitShady 4y ago
  the last 2-3 generations of cpus and gpus have seen the most innovation, efficiency, and performance gains in a long time. If you don't want to drive a 5l truck, don't drive one, but 500W is not an average load, and if you have high electricity costs thats a you problem not an everyone else problem. The largest parts of my electrical bill are distribution and overhead charges that don't change whether I use power or not. The marginal utility of the power vs the cost is quite reasonable.
  - epolanski 4y ago
    You and me are seeing very different news if you dont see midrange gpus consumimg 250w under load and cpus getting over 100. The performance gains are non existent and largely driven by bigger and bigger chips on smaller nodes. There is no innovation in gpu and x86 cpus space since a long time, that happens only on arm nowadays.

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xani_ 4y ago

The fuck are those calculations ? Are you trying to mislead people on purpose? Who is running their computer at 500W 24/7 ?

PragmaticPulp 4y ago

> 24h x 30 days x .5kW No modern PC should be pulling 500W all the time. Idle power can be as low as 20-30W depending on the build. You should also allow it to sleep, of course. > My 3090 never seems to go below 120W, for one thing. Something is wrong. A 3090 should only pull about 20 Watts at idle: https://www.servethehome.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-review-a-compute-powerhouse/7/ https://www.servethehome.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-review-... . You might have some process forcing it into full-speed 3D mode for some reason.

hulitu 4y ago
Windows indexing service.

bufferoverflow 4y ago

500W 24/7 consumption? What do you do? Train ML non-stop? Your example is in now representative of reality.