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I believe you meant to reply to me. They’re over over 100 individuals on her floor alone. Just her and one other on her team. The engineers and field team still

I believe you meant to reply to me. They’re over over 100 individuals on her floor alone. Just her and one other on her team. The engineers and field team still come into the office. She starts work at 7am. Normal hours are 7 to 4 but lately she’s been staying until 5pm to try to catch up. During WFH, she logged in at 7am and was usually done by 10am. I guess I’m going to have to start spelling everything out and including every single detail because some of you like to assume whatever you must in order to fit your narrative.

treis 4y ago
So she's gone from 3 hours to ~9. That doesn't really change anything about my point. If you're having 6 hours of your day wasted by people not on your team that's on you and not the office.
- hollywood_court 4y ago
  6 hours of running downstairs and showing the lab manager how to use the autoclave again, 6 hours of answering older coworkers questions about excel, 6 hours of her boss walking into her office and saying “hey, did you see what they said on Fox News last night?”, six hours of chasing crackheads out of the parking lot while they drive to break into her car, six hours of searching for who stole her lunch or almond milk. It all adds up. But if it makes you feel better to place the blame on her, please go right ahead.
- whatarethembits 4y ago
  Context switching has a cost. HUGE cost. It takes me over an hour to get “in to the zone” when interrupted from deep work. Emphasis on deep work, Im not talking about writing emails (although that can fall in this category too, not going to judge other professions). It’d take about three interruptions to ruin an entire workdays worth of productivity for me, which is very easy to do in an office environment. I paid a steep price all those years in an office, never again.
- tomrod 4y ago
  It's clearly on the office environment. You've been provided an A/B example where workload is roughly equivalent pre and post period but time to complete has extended. Many other people have shared similar observations. Is it a bandwagon to hop on? Perhaps. But better than making the OP subject of dissection and study without an IRB approval or defined survey methodology.
tomrod 4y ago
> I guess I’m going to have to start spelling everything out and including every single detail because some of you like to assume whatever you must in order to fit your narrative. That's the unfortunately thing with some folks' responses. They question every interpretation. As to why they exceed the bounds of reasonable discussion and make everything a dissection because they are missing some key detail they have trouble clarifying seems to be besides the point. I appreciated your story, and have seen similar experiences.
- hollywood_court 4y ago
  I’m beginning to learn. I believe I offended someone when I included the term “conservative” when describing my wife’s director. I suppose that is unavoidable these days.
  - tomrod 4y ago
    Ironic, isn't it, that stereotypes can be so darn useful (marketing folks call them personas) yet so universally reviled?

treis 4y ago

So she's gone from 3 hours to ~9. That doesn't really change anything about my point. If you're having 6 hours of your day wasted by people not on your team that's on you and not the office.

hollywood_court 4y ago
6 hours of running downstairs and showing the lab manager how to use the autoclave again, 6 hours of answering older coworkers questions about excel, 6 hours of her boss walking into her office and saying “hey, did you see what they said on Fox News last night?”, six hours of chasing crackheads out of the parking lot while they drive to break into her car, six hours of searching for who stole her lunch or almond milk. It all adds up. But if it makes you feel better to place the blame on her, please go right ahead.
whatarethembits 4y ago
Context switching has a cost. HUGE cost. It takes me over an hour to get “in to the zone” when interrupted from deep work. Emphasis on deep work, Im not talking about writing emails (although that can fall in this category too, not going to judge other professions). It’d take about three interruptions to ruin an entire workdays worth of productivity for me, which is very easy to do in an office environment. I paid a steep price all those years in an office, never again.
tomrod 4y ago
It's clearly on the office environment. You've been provided an A/B example where workload is roughly equivalent pre and post period but time to complete has extended. Many other people have shared similar observations. Is it a bandwagon to hop on? Perhaps. But better than making the OP subject of dissection and study without an IRB approval or defined survey methodology.

tomrod 4y ago

> I guess I’m going to have to start spelling everything out and including every single detail because some of you like to assume whatever you must in order to fit your narrative. That's the unfortunately thing with some folks' responses. They question every interpretation. As to why they exceed the bounds of reasonable discussion and make everything a dissection because they are missing some key detail they have trouble clarifying seems to be besides the point. I appreciated your story, and have seen similar experiences.

hollywood_court 4y ago
I’m beginning to learn. I believe I offended someone when I included the term “conservative” when describing my wife’s director. I suppose that is unavoidable these days.
- tomrod 4y ago
  Ironic, isn't it, that stereotypes can be so darn useful (marketing folks call them personas) yet so universally reviled?