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Driving a car requires a license and registration of the vehicle. You can go to jail for driving a car without a registration or license. In very much the same

Driving a car requires a license and registration of the vehicle. You can go to jail for driving a car without a registration or license. In very much the same way, if you are running a money transmitting business, you need to register with the government and follow the government laws. Otherwise, you risk going to jail. It's not rocket science. Just because it is on the internet doesn't make it a whole new thing.

mr_spothawk 4y ago
> You can go to jail for driving a car without a registration or license. Since when is driving a car without registration or license a felony?
- polygamous_bat 4y ago
  Here is an example: in Texas, unauthorized use of a vehicle, which would include driving a car that you can't prove is yours, can be punishable by two years in jail. [1] From what I understand getting caught driving without a license the first time is generally a misdemeanor, but for repeated offence in for example CA can land you in jail. Running a whole operation around driving without a license is what tornado cash is more similar to, not accidentally forgetting your license once, which is what the misdemeanor is for. [1] https://casetext.com/statute/texas-codes/penal-code/title-7-offenses-against-property/chapter-31-theft/section-3107-unauthorized-use-of-a-vehicle https://casetext.com/statute/texas-codes/penal-code/title-7-...
  - notch656a 4y ago
    You can actually operate and drive a car on private property without a license in Texas. In fact in Texas you can even drive a car drunk if it's on private property not open to the public, like a fenced off private parking lot. Using your analogy, an instance of TC on private property would not be licensed.
    - polygamous_bat 4y ago
      Tornado cash would not be sanctioned if it were not public and therefore not used by North Korea, yes. What is your point here?
      - notch656a 4y ago
        Then using your analogy it should not be sanctioned. There is nothing illegal about a North Korean coming to your property and driving a car without a license. Your logic that _because North Korean, therefore public property_ is nonsensical. And as an aside: >Driving a car requires a license and registration of the vehicle. Patently false.
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Ferret7446 4y ago
No one is running Tornado Cash. Tornado Cash is a smart contract running on the Ethereum blockchain. At one point someone uploaded the contract, but that person can no longer modify the contract and they are not running the contract. You can arrest that person and shut down all of their servers and the contract will continue to run.

mr_spothawk 4y ago

> You can go to jail for driving a car without a registration or license. Since when is driving a car without registration or license a felony?

polygamous_bat 4y ago
Here is an example: in Texas, unauthorized use of a vehicle, which would include driving a car that you can't prove is yours, can be punishable by two years in jail. [1] From what I understand getting caught driving without a license the first time is generally a misdemeanor, but for repeated offence in for example CA can land you in jail. Running a whole operation around driving without a license is what tornado cash is more similar to, not accidentally forgetting your license once, which is what the misdemeanor is for. [1] https://casetext.com/statute/texas-codes/penal-code/title-7-offenses-against-property/chapter-31-theft/section-3107-unauthorized-use-of-a-vehicle https://casetext.com/statute/texas-codes/penal-code/title-7-...
- notch656a 4y ago
  You can actually operate and drive a car on private property without a license in Texas. In fact in Texas you can even drive a car drunk if it's on private property not open to the public, like a fenced off private parking lot. Using your analogy, an instance of TC on private property would not be licensed.
  - polygamous_bat 4y ago
    Tornado cash would not be sanctioned if it were not public and therefore not used by North Korea, yes. What is your point here?
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Then using your analogy it should not be sanctioned. There is nothing illegal about a North Korean coming to your property and driving a car without a license. Your logic that _because North Korean, therefore public property_ is nonsensical. And as an aside: >Driving a car requires a license and registration of the vehicle. Patently false.
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Ferret7446 4y ago

No one is running Tornado Cash. Tornado Cash is a smart contract running on the Ethereum blockchain. At one point someone uploaded the contract, but that person can no longer modify the contract and they are not running the contract. You can arrest that person and shut down all of their servers and the contract will continue to run.