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Why would you ask this question and not bump into God? That concept of a living inside a computer simulation, asking if we can know the unknowable, even bumpin

Why would you ask this question and not bump into God? That concept of a living inside a computer simulation, asking if we can know the unknowable, even bumping into Marduk... is answerable by the divine. Though the parable about the ten ox was kind of cool. Hackernews loves to revisit the zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance in many different forms, yet the answer is always the same. The 'No thing' in the ten ox parable, in zen and the art, in this articles pondering about what is unknowable, is god...

brink 4y ago
Wholeheartedly agree. Our intrinsic existence with its beginning and its end is a contradiction, so I define God as "the unknowable thing that we came from", the "container of time and space". If it's reasonable to assume that there's consciousness down here, it's also relatively safe to assume that there's some form of more complete consciousness in the higher thing that we came from.
pessimizer 4y ago
Saying something is only answerable by the divine is just like saying that you refuse to answer something. The unknowable is not answerable by the unknowable.
gjm11 4y ago
If "God" is the answer to every question (or at least every sufficiently ultimate-sounding question) then I suggest it is not really a useful answer to any question. Frankly, what you say comes across to me as "How dare all these people talk about deep mysterious things without giving my preferred Answer To All Deep Mysterious Things?". Well, maybe your answer is wrong. Or maybe somehow more than one can be right. Or maybe there are in fact multiple Deep Mysterious Things that don't all have the same answer. Or maybe, as you clearly think is obvious, those other people are all wrong because the only right answer to any Deep Mysterious Thing is "God". But you might consider the following: if your current beliefs imply that anyone who asks questions like these should "bump into God", then the fact that someone asks questions like these and doesn't indicates that something in your current beliefs is wrong. Still more, the fact that (as you complain of in your last paragraph) people frequently ask such questions without "bumping into God".

brink 4y ago

Wholeheartedly agree. Our intrinsic existence with its beginning and its end is a contradiction, so I define God as "the unknowable thing that we came from", the "container of time and space". If it's reasonable to assume that there's consciousness down here, it's also relatively safe to assume that there's some form of more complete consciousness in the higher thing that we came from.

pessimizer 4y ago

Saying something is only answerable by the divine is just like saying that you refuse to answer something. The unknowable is not answerable by the unknowable.

gjm11 4y ago

If "God" is the answer to every question (or at least every sufficiently ultimate-sounding question) then I suggest it is not really a useful answer to any question. Frankly, what you say comes across to me as "How dare all these people talk about deep mysterious things without giving my preferred Answer To All Deep Mysterious Things?". Well, maybe your answer is wrong. Or maybe somehow more than one can be right. Or maybe there are in fact multiple Deep Mysterious Things that don't all have the same answer. Or maybe, as you clearly think is obvious, those other people are all wrong because the only right answer to any Deep Mysterious Thing is "God". But you might consider the following: if your current beliefs imply that anyone who asks questions like these should "bump into God", then the fact that someone asks questions like these and doesn't indicates that something in your current beliefs is wrong. Still more, the fact that (as you complain of in your last paragraph) people frequently ask such questions without "bumping into God".