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I think it'd be wonderful if any project with a social presence would consider mastodon. Even when it's just a bot that parrots what the twitter account says it

I think it'd be wonderful if any project with a social presence would consider mastodon. Even when it's just a bot that parrots what the twitter account says it is nice to not have to use twitter.

signal11 4y ago
The EU is on Mastodon now. It makes a lot of sense for them not be reliant on commercial organizations in other jurisdictions for getting the word out. This won't mean they'll stop using Twitter -- just that it gives them an alternataive.
- aitchnyu 4y ago
  They have/had a blog where they publish decisions like "batch of wood recalled for good reason" which outlets would sensationalise as "Grandnephew of Hitler banned toothpicks since adults are too dumb".
mikece 4y ago
It would be nice if people stopped saying "On Mastodon" and said "On ActivityPub" instead -- there are a number of ActivityPub servers and I really hope Mastodon as a name doesn't eclipse the fact that it's just an instance of an ActivityPub server.
- hn92726819 4y ago
  Is this a joke? ActivityPub is a protocol isn't it? People are "on twitter", not "on http"
  - OJFord 4y ago
    It's more like recommending a blog that's 'on Google Reader' vs. 'on RSS' (has an RSS feed). Or Matt Levine's 'Gmail newsletter' is popular around here.
- ergonaught 4y ago
  Saying "On ActivityPub" instead of "On Mastodon" is likely a very good way to prevent any sort of mass adoption.
- packetlost 4y ago
  I usually hear it referred to as the "fediverse", which seems catchier and solves the concern you have.
  - im3w1l 4y ago
    Fediverse also has the advantage that it refers to the community rather than the specific protocol. When mastodon spoke the ostatus protocol with gnusocial that was also fediverse.
- Toorkit 4y ago
  I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Mastodon, is in fact, ActivityPub/Mastodon, or as I've recently taken to calling it, ActivityPub plus Mastodon. ;-)
- cmeacham98 4y ago
  Mastodon is the name that has traction, being pedantic about this will just confuse users and reduce adoption.
tmpz22 4y ago
I've tried mastadon, I've read some of the code, I've read the specs. I was really excited about it but then I started using it and its just not up to the bar of mainstream user expectations. The bar has risen for social media sites since 2000. Its not enough to slap some SPA code together, get a basic working data model with CRUD functionality, and toss it into the ether. People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button.
- soperj 4y ago
  > People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button. Doesn't seem like you've used it very much if you believe the toot button is a like button.
  - tmpz22 4y ago
    You're right a proper definition of a toot is: "Posts are called "toots" instead of "tweets", as is the case on Twitter." I mixed up a like button with a tweet-like object. Either way i'll say it again, people aren't excited by the ability to create basic posts anymore.
    - jwilber 4y ago
      I’ve never used mastodon, but it’s hard to take your judgements at any value when it seems like you haven’t either.
- yborg 4y ago
  >People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button. They seem pretty excited by this on Twitter. You haven't explained what you think are "mainstream user expectations".
- tjoff 4y ago
  > The bar has risen for social media sites since 2000. It has?

I think it'd be wonderful if any project with a social presence would consider mastodon. Even when it's just a bot that parrots what the twitter account says it is nice to not have to use twitter.

signal11 4y ago

The EU is on Mastodon now. It makes a lot of sense for them not be reliant on commercial organizations in other jurisdictions for getting the word out. This won't mean they'll stop using Twitter -- just that it gives them an alternataive.

aitchnyu 4y ago
They have/had a blog where they publish decisions like "batch of wood recalled for good reason" which outlets would sensationalise as "Grandnephew of Hitler banned toothpicks since adults are too dumb".

mikece 4y ago

It would be nice if people stopped saying "On Mastodon" and said "On ActivityPub" instead -- there are a number of ActivityPub servers and I really hope Mastodon as a name doesn't eclipse the fact that it's just an instance of an ActivityPub server.

hn92726819 4y ago
Is this a joke? ActivityPub is a protocol isn't it? People are "on twitter", not "on http"
- OJFord 4y ago
  It's more like recommending a blog that's 'on Google Reader' vs. 'on RSS' (has an RSS feed). Or Matt Levine's 'Gmail newsletter' is popular around here.
ergonaught 4y ago
Saying "On ActivityPub" instead of "On Mastodon" is likely a very good way to prevent any sort of mass adoption.
packetlost 4y ago
I usually hear it referred to as the "fediverse", which seems catchier and solves the concern you have.
- im3w1l 4y ago
  Fediverse also has the advantage that it refers to the community rather than the specific protocol. When mastodon spoke the ostatus protocol with gnusocial that was also fediverse.
Toorkit 4y ago
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Mastodon, is in fact, ActivityPub/Mastodon, or as I've recently taken to calling it, ActivityPub plus Mastodon. ;-)
cmeacham98 4y ago
Mastodon is the name that has traction, being pedantic about this will just confuse users and reduce adoption.

tmpz22 4y ago

I've tried mastadon, I've read some of the code, I've read the specs. I was really excited about it but then I started using it and its just not up to the bar of mainstream user expectations. The bar has risen for social media sites since 2000. Its not enough to slap some SPA code together, get a basic working data model with CRUD functionality, and toss it into the ether. People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button.

soperj 4y ago
> People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button. Doesn't seem like you've used it very much if you believe the toot button is a like button.
- tmpz22 4y ago
  You're right a proper definition of a toot is: "Posts are called "toots" instead of "tweets", as is the case on Twitter." I mixed up a like button with a tweet-like object. Either way i'll say it again, people aren't excited by the ability to create basic posts anymore.
  - jwilber 4y ago
    I’ve never used mastodon, but it’s hard to take your judgements at any value when it seems like you haven’t either.
yborg 4y ago
>People aren't excited by a working toot (like) button. They seem pretty excited by this on Twitter. You haven't explained what you think are "mainstream user expectations".
tjoff 4y ago
> The bar has risen for social media sites since 2000. It has?