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It's pretty bad faith to post an inflammatory comment, initially with several errors like referring to the Ref<> stuct instead of Rc<>, add edits to complain ab

It's pretty bad faith to post an inflammatory comment, initially with several errors like referring to the Ref<> stuct instead of Rc<>, add edits to complain about downvotes, and then steadily edit it to be more correct and reasonable while leaving in the complaints about downvotes. Leaving the impression that it was the current iteration that attracted the downvotes because "the truth hurts". It suggests to me you know as well as we do that the downvotes were about snarkily expressing your views while making mistakes that might suggest you aren't all that familiar with rust in the first place, and not that you're expressing "forbidden thoughts."

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- NoraCodes 4y ago
  > see if you find any "forbidden thoughts" As always, Venn diagram of "people with extremely pointless gripes about the Rust language" and "people who compare the slightest criticism to being accused of thoughtcrime" is a circle. That's not to say everyone who dislikes Rust is like this. I have plenty of gripes about Rust. Just the people who say things like "if you use a refcount and make a cycle, you can leak memory, oh noez".
  - llllllllllll9 4y ago
    errr ... say what? not a zinger this time (no zig for you!). anyhoo, ciao.
  - maxbond 4y ago
    Some seem to interpret the very existence of other people's ideas and especially what they perceive as an emerging consensus as a threat to their autonomy? I don't understand but I do observe it. I feel like what people actually take issue with is the existence of Rust and with people talking about it, and so they complain about how often it's on the front page, or they'll complain that it's in the title of the post, etc. But I feel like the root cause here is that they want it to go away, because it's existence bothers them.
    - llllllllllll9 4y ago
      sorry
- wtetzner 4y ago
  > until you need cyclic references and have to use Rc<> or Refcell<> which means you can have memleaks. Memory leaks are not unsafe.

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NoraCodes 4y ago
> see if you find any "forbidden thoughts" As always, Venn diagram of "people with extremely pointless gripes about the Rust language" and "people who compare the slightest criticism to being accused of thoughtcrime" is a circle. That's not to say everyone who dislikes Rust is like this. I have plenty of gripes about Rust. Just the people who say things like "if you use a refcount and make a cycle, you can leak memory, oh noez".
- llllllllllll9 4y ago
  errr ... say what? not a zinger this time (no zig for you!). anyhoo, ciao.
- maxbond 4y ago
  Some seem to interpret the very existence of other people's ideas and especially what they perceive as an emerging consensus as a threat to their autonomy? I don't understand but I do observe it. I feel like what people actually take issue with is the existence of Rust and with people talking about it, and so they complain about how often it's on the front page, or they'll complain that it's in the title of the post, etc. But I feel like the root cause here is that they want it to go away, because it's existence bothers them.
  - llllllllllll9 4y ago
    sorry
wtetzner 4y ago
> until you need cyclic references and have to use Rc<> or Refcell<> which means you can have memleaks. Memory leaks are not unsafe.