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Ask HN: Do you expect cloud price increase in Europe due to enery crisis

28 points by Nic0 4y ago

With the energy crisis in Europe, do you expect some important rises in Europe regions with Cloud Providers in 2023. In my case, I have lots of resources in Belgium region in GCP, Will I see my cloud bill jump to the roof? I'll appreciate any links and opinions on the topic.

mtmail 4y ago
Hetzner announced 10% increases starting September https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/price-adjustment/ https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/price-adjustment/ From email to customers "Energy prices from suppliers have risen drastically since the end of last year. This phenomenon is affecting people and industries across the globe. And since prices are not likely to drop or stabilize in the near future, we are forced to increase the prices of many of our products by approximately 10 %. In addition, we also unfortunately need to implement a serious increase to the electricity/air conditioning rate for our colocation products."
- Nic0 4y ago
  OVH in France send a news with the same range of increase. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022-and-2023/ https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022...
- shapefrog 4y ago
  From memory that was their second price increase for some customers (server auction customers) in 6 months. Some saw higher increases, some lower. new price 34.80 Euro old price 26.20 Euro Starting on 2022-03-08 (notified 2022-01-21) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30022698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30022698
thoughtstheseus 4y ago
Yes, energy is needed to operate data centers and energy prices are increasing and uncertain.
Proven 4y ago
Hetzner, OVH, DO, etc. have already increased their prices. Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far. But with the continuous harassment of cloud providers by the useless eaters from Brussels, I bet that's only a matter of time.
- Nic0 4y ago
  Does GCP and AWS produce some electricity to be more independant on energy. OVH dont. Could this have an impact on price.
- hulitu 4y ago
  > Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far Are they operating as a cartel ?
nik736 4y ago
Yes, it will increase. Thanks to the merit order effect [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_order
ollybee 4y ago
Yes. In the UK it's been delayed as the government announced help for businesses, but with no details other than it would be "equivalent support" than for consumers. Other events in the UK have forced those crucial details to the back seat for now. As soon as details are known the price rises will come.
thomasvochten 4y ago
Most cloud providers have already secured energy prices in multi-year contracts

28 points by Nic0 4y ago

mtmail 4y ago

Hetzner announced 10% increases starting September https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/price-adjustment/ https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/price-adjustment/ From email to customers "Energy prices from suppliers have risen drastically since the end of last year. This phenomenon is affecting people and industries across the globe. And since prices are not likely to drop or stabilize in the near future, we are forced to increase the prices of many of our products by approximately 10 %. In addition, we also unfortunately need to implement a serious increase to the electricity/air conditioning rate for our colocation products."

Nic0 4y ago
OVH in France send a news with the same range of increase. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022-and-2023/ https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022...
shapefrog 4y ago
From memory that was their second price increase for some customers (server auction customers) in 6 months. Some saw higher increases, some lower. new price 34.80 Euro old price 26.20 Euro Starting on 2022-03-08 (notified 2022-01-21) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30022698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30022698

thoughtstheseus 4y ago

Yes, energy is needed to operate data centers and energy prices are increasing and uncertain.

Proven 4y ago

Hetzner, OVH, DO, etc. have already increased their prices. Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far. But with the continuous harassment of cloud providers by the useless eaters from Brussels, I bet that's only a matter of time.

Nic0 4y ago
Does GCP and AWS produce some electricity to be more independant on energy. OVH dont. Could this have an impact on price.
hulitu 4y ago
> Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far Are they operating as a cartel ?

nik736 4y ago

Yes, it will increase. Thanks to the merit order effect [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_order

ollybee 4y ago

Yes. In the UK it's been delayed as the government announced help for businesses, but with no details other than it would be "equivalent support" than for consumers. Other events in the UK have forced those crucial details to the back seat for now. As soon as details are known the price rises will come.

thomasvochten 4y ago

Most cloud providers have already secured energy prices in multi-year contracts