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Zoom’s Slack competitor is getting a new name and features

20 points by mikece 4y ago

ajvs 4y ago
I can't wait for Element/Matrix to sort out their performance issues and match the privacy of Signal so we can deprecate all these crappy proprietary silos.
- mikece 4y ago
  There would still need to be a commercially supported SaaS version for all I/T managers who won't buy a service that doesn't come with a "throat to choke" (other than their own) if things go wrong. That said, I hope Element/Matrix can have a corporate offering to be that thing.
  - auscompgeek 4y ago
    Isn't Element Matrix Services a "commercially supported SaaS version"?
  - mxuribe 4y ago
    As @auscompgeek noted, EMS (Element Matrix Services) is an existing commercial provider who already manages enterprise customers (some Texas law enforcement agency, German military intell agecney, many ministires in the government of France, etc.): https://element.io/enterprise-collaboration https://element.io/enterprise-collaboration So, you know, not small clients only. ;-) Also, there are a coupel of other providers too: https://matrix.org/hosting/ https://matrix.org/hosting/
- Arathorn 4y ago
  We're making fantastic progress (at last) at perf issues, as well as better-than-Signal privacy (thanks to https://arewep2pyet.com https://arewep2pyet.com). So i am cautiously optimistic that we will eventually get there in the end :)
kej 4y ago
I knew it wasn't likely, but part of me was hoping the headline meant they were doing something with Keybase.
- mxuribe 4y ago
  As heard in the Zoom board room: "We'll buy Keybase, but actually do little with it, and then sow brand confusion with our collaboration/chat product by re-naming it similar to one of our biggest competitor...no one will be able to beat us on the market with all of our zig-zagging! Hear hear!..." /s
joshstrange 4y ago
I really wish Zoom would stop showing me (a paying customer) ads after every zoom call. "Save 50% on chat" or "Invite a friend and get a credit towards your account". It's infuriating to pay for Zoom and have to see ads as well (and not even good ads).

20 points by mikece 4y ago

ajvs 4y ago

I can't wait for Element/Matrix to sort out their performance issues and match the privacy of Signal so we can deprecate all these crappy proprietary silos.

mikece 4y ago
There would still need to be a commercially supported SaaS version for all I/T managers who won't buy a service that doesn't come with a "throat to choke" (other than their own) if things go wrong. That said, I hope Element/Matrix can have a corporate offering to be that thing.
- auscompgeek 4y ago
  Isn't Element Matrix Services a "commercially supported SaaS version"?
- mxuribe 4y ago
  As @auscompgeek noted, EMS (Element Matrix Services) is an existing commercial provider who already manages enterprise customers (some Texas law enforcement agency, German military intell agecney, many ministires in the government of France, etc.): https://element.io/enterprise-collaboration https://element.io/enterprise-collaboration So, you know, not small clients only. ;-) Also, there are a coupel of other providers too: https://matrix.org/hosting/ https://matrix.org/hosting/
Arathorn 4y ago
We're making fantastic progress (at last) at perf issues, as well as better-than-Signal privacy (thanks to https://arewep2pyet.com https://arewep2pyet.com). So i am cautiously optimistic that we will eventually get there in the end :)

kej 4y ago

I knew it wasn't likely, but part of me was hoping the headline meant they were doing something with Keybase.

mxuribe 4y ago
As heard in the Zoom board room: "We'll buy Keybase, but actually do little with it, and then sow brand confusion with our collaboration/chat product by re-naming it similar to one of our biggest competitor...no one will be able to beat us on the market with all of our zig-zagging! Hear hear!..." /s

joshstrange 4y ago

I really wish Zoom would stop showing me (a paying customer) ads after every zoom call. "Save 50% on chat" or "Invite a friend and get a credit towards your account". It's infuriating to pay for Zoom and have to see ads as well (and not even good ads).