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IMHO free movement of capital without free movement of labor is a true plague. Any country that has achieved good living standards sees their citizens pushed o
by mrtksn 4y ago
IMHO free movement of capital without free movement of labor is a true plague.
Any country that has achieved good living standards sees their citizens pushed out of housing by the rich people of other countries. Since the inflow is capital-only, you don't see inflow of people who can contribute to the society but you see people who come and consume resources just because they made wealth buildup oversees.
People like to blame it on immigrants but when working class immigrants come they works their a*ss off and contribute huge amount into the society.
It's almost like enslavement.
Someone in a corrupt county somehow builds up some wealth, which is essentially what the society owes them(IOU). Normally they would figure out what is actually owed to who by themselves but they take that IOU's and move to, let's say a country that has good living standards, like Portugal. Now the government is happy about it because they have IOU inflow that they can tax or stir up the economy but these rich people often don't use the IOU's to bring machinery or pay Portuguese to do research or anything like that. What they do is real estate investments.
Normally that would have been O.K. but since that money is not moving in a free market(remember, only the money can move. It's very hard to move around people and services), what you have is extreme market movements due to extreme capital movements without extreme movements in labour.
For example, when a Russian oligarch brings 10 billion dollars to London, suddenly huge demand is created but Russians who owe the oligarch the services can't come to build houses needed. Obviously their money goes into other parts of the British economy but you end up with Russians in poverty, overpaid people in some sectors where the oligarch money flows and local residents who cannot afford to pay rent despite working very hard.
That's why I'm proponent for restriction of capital movements wherever there are restrictions on human movements OR removing all restrictions on all kind of movements. In the first case we will have a patchy world where those societies who got their act together flourish(but they might do nasty things to the weaker ones. Also we lose many benefits of globalisation, like specialisation) and with the second option we will have an equalised world based on merit(however the transition will be very painful for those who are in a good standing currently, it also takes generations to learn to live together).
- cloutchaser 4y agoI think you are right about the symptoms but misdiagnosed the disease. Unfortunately I think our minds cannot comprehend how much wealth has been created in the world in the last 30-40 years, and how many rich people that's created out of the 8bn world population. Something like 1.4m americans have a net worth above $10m. 1.4m!!! And that's just the US. Can you imagine how many millionaires the world has created? Now imagine how much real estate actually exists in the city centers of large cities in the world. Not that much. Especially in popular cities. Nowhere near enough for this wealth to go into. This isn't about oligarchs, or rich dictators. There's nothing illegal going on here (there is a little, but its negligible). It's the world population and the wealth we've created. It's insane. A lot of people have gotten very rich.
- mrtksn 4y agoSure, a lot of people got very rich and that's OK since we can also develop so much infrastructure to support it. What I say is, the problem here comes from restricting the markets in a way that blocks natural trade and things cannot stabilize. See, flipping burgers for a week in USA gives you an iPhone that is made by countless people all over the worlds but doing the exact same job in Turkey for example gives you a MagSafe charger only and you need to keep flipping burgers for 30 more weeks to get the iPhone. This creates an labour arbitrage that could have been fixed with people moving around like the way it happens between cities in the same country but instead we have capital movement only which results in wealthy squeezing out the resources of areas of restricted movement, thus perpetuating the arbitrage. It's almost like a scheme to keep the property owners and the workers in separate classes without an ability to move between classes.