> Sorry but the country is actually the Netherlands. See the link I shared :D. I live in Germany these days but most of this type of info I still know better fr

> Sorry but the country is actually the Netherlands. See the link I shared :D. I live in Germany these days but most of this type of info I still know better from when I lived in NL. (E.g. wouldn't know what the statistics bureau here is called, whereas in NL that's just something I grew up with hearing on the news so I know what source to trust.) Hah, you're reference to the username threw me off (I have to admit I did not look at the link). > That Germany wants to have 600 TWh in 2030 is crazy, I hadn't heard that yet. Very curious how this will work! The only big win I can see would be in heat pumps being 3x more efficient than anything else, but building heating is only a few % of the total use. Industries would also be big wins, but moving steel production abroad is just moving the problem like a hot potato. 82 million people using less energy than their 17 million neighbours did in 2013 would be quite an achievement! In case you remember where you read about that, I'd be curious about a link. Ok I think I see where the confusion lies. I've been using numbers for electricity production/consumption while you are talking about total energy consumption (I guess?). I think the question of how to transition heavy industry to non-fossil fuels is definitely a big one, I suspect we likely will need hydrogen technology for that (I don't think anyone knows how to do metal manufacturing with electricity directly). It's actually quite current in the situation now. One of Germanies biggest gas consumers is a copper cable manufacturer. If Germany wants to move of fossil fuels/become independent of Russian gas, copper is crucial, but at the same time to make the copper the only solution at the moment is to use gas.