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> That wouldn't work - it only covered cops who were "actively involved". Getting your partner to move towards someone with a camera would mean they were no lon

> That wouldn't work - it only covered cops who were "actively involved". Getting your partner to move towards someone with a camera would mean they were no longer covered by that. Otherwise they could just station cops on 16ft grid and prevent any filming for 100s of ft. If only there was footage to corroborate the partner's statement on the matter. Quip aside, I can think of a half dozen ways off the top of my head for a partner to get in the way while remaining actively involved. It's ok for the balance to tip in favor of the people once in a while.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> I can think of a half dozen ways off the top of my head for a partner to get in the way while remaining actively involved. Sure but none of them are "walk towards the camera and the magic circle goes with them", right? Which is what a lot of people think is the "GOTCHA!" this law gives the cops.
- jebronie 4y ago
  Wow, extremely naive. All laws will be abused by bad actors.
- spoiler 4y ago
  Police officers are just people. There's always going to be people who abuse theirs power. Petty and malicious bullies revel in it a even. Unfortunately, the nature of the job attracts those people sometimes. I'm not trying to do the police as a career a disservice (which in general is a noble one, IMO), but they shown time and time again that they have plenty of bullies and bad apples (universally, not in any given place, but some places are worse). Edit: some other comments illustrate this better
sonotathrowaway 4y ago
The idea that it won’t be used by a cops partner to arrest bystanders to prevent their filming is patently laughable, and verges on being a bad faith argument. It’s clearly the intent of the law, and the idea that it won’t be used for such is impossible to reach without motivated reasoning.
- arcticbull 4y ago
  LAPD did exactly this last week, too... at an LAPD sponsored movie night. [1] I didn't even invent this situation de novo. I just happened to have seen this footage from a few different angles shortly before replying to this comment. I'm certainly not saying all police officers are bad actors - what I am saying is that there will always be bad actors. That is precisely why we have checks and balances for those with authority. It's pretty clear thanks to qualified immunity that some police in the US feel pretty, well, immune. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. That and ending qualified immunity. [1] https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-09/a-teen-filmed-lapd-officers-arresting-his-friend-then-he-ended-up-in-handcuffs https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-09/a-teen-f...

zimpenfish 4y ago

> I can think of a half dozen ways off the top of my head for a partner to get in the way while remaining actively involved. Sure but none of them are "walk towards the camera and the magic circle goes with them", right? Which is what a lot of people think is the "GOTCHA!" this law gives the cops.

jebronie 4y ago
Wow, extremely naive. All laws will be abused by bad actors.
spoiler 4y ago
Police officers are just people. There's always going to be people who abuse theirs power. Petty and malicious bullies revel in it a even. Unfortunately, the nature of the job attracts those people sometimes. I'm not trying to do the police as a career a disservice (which in general is a noble one, IMO), but they shown time and time again that they have plenty of bullies and bad apples (universally, not in any given place, but some places are worse). Edit: some other comments illustrate this better

sonotathrowaway 4y ago

The idea that it won’t be used by a cops partner to arrest bystanders to prevent their filming is patently laughable, and verges on being a bad faith argument. It’s clearly the intent of the law, and the idea that it won’t be used for such is impossible to reach without motivated reasoning.

arcticbull 4y ago
LAPD did exactly this last week, too... at an LAPD sponsored movie night. [1] I didn't even invent this situation de novo. I just happened to have seen this footage from a few different angles shortly before replying to this comment. I'm certainly not saying all police officers are bad actors - what I am saying is that there will always be bad actors. That is precisely why we have checks and balances for those with authority. It's pretty clear thanks to qualified immunity that some police in the US feel pretty, well, immune. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. That and ending qualified immunity. [1] https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-09/a-teen-filmed-lapd-officers-arresting-his-friend-then-he-ended-up-in-handcuffs https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-09/a-teen-f...