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Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and th

Few ways, in no particular order: - are.na seems to attract people who have odd interests and it’s full of quirky websites - webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out - directories like https://512kb.club/ https://512kb.club/ are usually full of interesting sites - by following links on blogs and sites you find interesting - some cool forums are still out there (https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php) Shameless plug but I am currently curating https://theforest.link https://theforest.link precisely because of the issue you’re describing.

pdinny 4y ago
I've found some really interesting reading on are.na. Something that I particularly enjoy about that mode of discovery is that it is more about curation and discovery. The smallness of the community (it feels small at any rate) means that there doesn't seem to be a big incentive to degrade the overall quality by using SEO-like tactics.
- manuelmoreale 4y ago
  > Something that I particularly enjoy about that mode of discovery is that it is more about curation and discovery Agree and also it feels like no one on the platform has anything to earn from their curation and as a result they use the platform as an actual tool for themselves. And so most collections are views into other people's interests and passions.
arbirk 4y ago
theforest feedback: I like link sites to open in the same tab, like HN
- dmurray 4y ago
  Shouldn't this be up to you and something you can change in your browser?
- manuelmoreale 4y ago
  Interesting. You’re the first person to ask for same tab opening. But it might make sense for this particular case. I’ll have a think.
  - phphphphp 4y ago
    A link should always open in the same tab by default, unless there’s a compelling reason otherwise: for users who prefer to open in a new tab (like myself) they can use the appropriate shortcuts, menu options or click combinations. If you configure links to open in a new tab, it’s impossible for a user to open it in the same tab.
  - mkl 4y ago
    I think trust people to know and do what they want: left click or middle click. The problem with making the new-tab choice for them is they can't click in such a way as to keep the same tab. I have literally written browser extensions to fix auto-new-tab links, it's that frustrating.
    - manuelmoreale 4y ago
      This is a compelling enough argument for me to switch the default.
      - pessimizer 4y ago
        Another data point: I open almost every link in a new tab, but I also find it very frustrating when a link opens in a new tab by default.
  - erellsworth 4y ago
    I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?
- Pyrodogg 4y ago
  Following this tangent, I think Twitter has some of the worst dark pattern UX about this. Sure, middle click opens a new tab but it also hijacks focus instead of loading in the background. It's really frustrating when I see X interesting things and want to open them all at once and then go through the tabs.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
Do you or anyone else have webrings that are interesting for someone who is into programming, math, fantasy, and sci-fi? I knew a few were still around, but I'm not aware of any that are actively maintained. I'm aware sci-fi is technically fantasy, but that categorization has never sat well with me.
- manuelmoreale 4y ago
  Sadly no, nothing that specific comes to mind. I'm personally part of the Indie Web Webring but that's as far as I go when it comes to involvement with web rings. That said there's a few listed here you might want to check https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/webrings.html https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/webrings.html And if none of those is what you're after I say be the change you want to see in the world and start a new webring!
- Kaibeezy 4y ago
  sci-fi is technically fantasy Interesting you’re looking for niche stuff then un-niche-ing SF and fantasy, when you could so easily go many parsecs down that rabbit hole. Here’s one guide to their subgenres - https://larawillard.com/2014/12/10/guide-to-sff-science-fiction-and-fantasy-sub-genres/ https://larawillard.com/2014/12/10/guide-to-sff-science-fict... - and there are many. You could do this for almost any topic. Drill down down down. Fungi and unsolved math puzzles and flatbread and occlupanids. Get far enough down and you’ll find people discussing and writing. These are the hedgerows of the Internet. Nerds are in the details.
bch 4y ago
> webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out Oh wow. As an in-my-head joke, after I read the HN title, “web rings” was my answer to myself, casting my mind back to 1995… Imagine my delight to hear it’s still not only an answer, but a good one. I don’t even know how much longer after Alta Vista vs Google “The Web” was interesting. My flip knee jerk assumption is Google optimized it all into the intellectual equivalent of the worst of children’s breakfast cereals. These days it’s HN and it’s community that serve as big role as jump-off point to interesting things.
status200 4y ago
Is there a way to report theforest.link sites? One of the first ones I was directed to is casually antisemitic
- manuelmoreale 4y ago
  Really? Can you send me an email with the link? hello at manuelmoreale dot com Thanks

pdinny 4y ago

I've found some really interesting reading on are.na. Something that I particularly enjoy about that mode of discovery is that it is more about curation and discovery. The smallness of the community (it feels small at any rate) means that there doesn't seem to be a big incentive to degrade the overall quality by using SEO-like tactics.

manuelmoreale 4y ago
> Something that I particularly enjoy about that mode of discovery is that it is more about curation and discovery Agree and also it feels like no one on the platform has anything to earn from their curation and as a result they use the platform as an actual tool for themselves. And so most collections are views into other people's interests and passions.

arbirk 4y ago

theforest feedback: I like link sites to open in the same tab, like HN

dmurray 4y ago
Shouldn't this be up to you and something you can change in your browser?
manuelmoreale 4y ago
Interesting. You’re the first person to ask for same tab opening. But it might make sense for this particular case. I’ll have a think.
- phphphphp 4y ago
  A link should always open in the same tab by default, unless there’s a compelling reason otherwise: for users who prefer to open in a new tab (like myself) they can use the appropriate shortcuts, menu options or click combinations. If you configure links to open in a new tab, it’s impossible for a user to open it in the same tab.
- mkl 4y ago
  I think trust people to know and do what they want: left click or middle click. The problem with making the new-tab choice for them is they can't click in such a way as to keep the same tab. I have literally written browser extensions to fix auto-new-tab links, it's that frustrating.
  - manuelmoreale 4y ago
    This is a compelling enough argument for me to switch the default.
    - pessimizer 4y ago
      Another data point: I open almost every link in a new tab, but I also find it very frustrating when a link opens in a new tab by default.
- erellsworth 4y ago
  I'm the opposite. I actually wrote a small browser extension to make HN links open in a new tab because it annoys me so much. I can't disagree with what others have said about making it user-choice though. Maybe some kind of toggle switch that lets users set the behavior one way or the other would work?
Pyrodogg 4y ago
Following this tangent, I think Twitter has some of the worst dark pattern UX about this. Sure, middle click opens a new tab but it also hijacks focus instead of loading in the background. It's really frustrating when I see X interesting things and want to open them all at once and then go through the tabs.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago

Do you or anyone else have webrings that are interesting for someone who is into programming, math, fantasy, and sci-fi? I knew a few were still around, but I'm not aware of any that are actively maintained. I'm aware sci-fi is technically fantasy, but that categorization has never sat well with me.

manuelmoreale 4y ago
Sadly no, nothing that specific comes to mind. I'm personally part of the Indie Web Webring but that's as far as I go when it comes to involvement with web rings. That said there's a few listed here you might want to check https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/webrings.html https://sadgrl.online/cyberspace/webrings.html And if none of those is what you're after I say be the change you want to see in the world and start a new webring!
Kaibeezy 4y ago
sci-fi is technically fantasy Interesting you’re looking for niche stuff then un-niche-ing SF and fantasy, when you could so easily go many parsecs down that rabbit hole. Here’s one guide to their subgenres - https://larawillard.com/2014/12/10/guide-to-sff-science-fiction-and-fantasy-sub-genres/ https://larawillard.com/2014/12/10/guide-to-sff-science-fict... - and there are many. You could do this for almost any topic. Drill down down down. Fungi and unsolved math puzzles and flatbread and occlupanids. Get far enough down and you’ll find people discussing and writing. These are the hedgerows of the Internet. Nerds are in the details.

bch 4y ago

> webrings are still a thing and there’s a bunch out there worth checking out Oh wow. As an in-my-head joke, after I read the HN title, “web rings” was my answer to myself, casting my mind back to 1995… Imagine my delight to hear it’s still not only an answer, but a good one. I don’t even know how much longer after Alta Vista vs Google “The Web” was interesting. My flip knee jerk assumption is Google optimized it all into the intellectual equivalent of the worst of children’s breakfast cereals. These days it’s HN and it’s community that serve as big role as jump-off point to interesting things.

status200 4y ago

Is there a way to report theforest.link sites? One of the first ones I was directed to is casually antisemitic

manuelmoreale 4y ago
Really? Can you send me an email with the link? hello at manuelmoreale dot com Thanks