> But not because of Capitalism, despite it. The one country that made a difference self-defines as Socialist. You do realize that reforms that led to poverty

> But not because of Capitalism, despite it. The one country that made a difference self-defines as Socialist. You do realize that reforms that led to poverty reduction in China were deeply capitalistic? Allowing privatization, reducing state control over trade and pricing, reducing state ownership and central planning, opening up markets, allowing foreign investments, etc. How on earth those reforms were "despite capitalism"?