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Don't know why, but the page is completely broken when rendered in Opera. Perhaps the custom font?

by rplnt 15y ago

jodrellblank 15y ago
Perhaps the page isn't broken, the browser is.
- burgerbrain 15y ago
  1) The user doesn't care. Therefore it is the site's problem. 2) Works fine for me with Opera (linux). so shrug.
  - danilocampos 15y ago
    Nah. When the browser has a single digit share, it's on the browser to make things render correctly. The user went to some trouble to get that arcane tool.
    - burgerbrain 15y ago
      "The user went to some trouble to get that arcane tool." Troll much?
      - danilocampos 15y ago
        Only when the mood strikes. It didn't above. "Who uses Opera?" seems to me a perfectly valid sentiment in favor of not spending one's limited energies on making sure something renders correctly for it. Hell, in a cousin, the abundantly reasonable admin of the linked site reports it's less than 1% of their traffic. Like I said, arcane. Worry about what real users use, I say.
        burgerbrain 15y ago
        The trolly-ness was specifically the sentence I quoted. Anyone who is already aware of Opera (more people than you might think, usage != awareness) will not have any trouble acquiring it. I have numerous non-technical acquaintances that use it on their often aging hardware. It's not like we're talking about elinks here or something.
        rplnt 15y ago
        Except it has share in tens of percents in some markets. The fact that it has 0.5% market share in US doesn't mean it has no market share at all. You are right that it doesn't make sense for US site to focus on Opera but your other statements are quite invalid.
crabwalk 15y ago
Looks fine to me in Opera Mac too, fwiw. (I run niemanlab.org, and I confess I don't do any testing in Opera, so I honestly appreciate any bug reports.) FYI, our browser breakdown: 31% Chrome, 28% Firefox, 15% desktop Safari, 11% IE, 10% iOS Safari, 3% Android browser, 0.74% Opera, 0.26% Opera Mini, 0.23% RockMelt (!).
- rplnt 15y ago
  Might be some userscript I have installed, thanks for the feedback. And as a bonus, browser stats from country I'm from: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-SK-monthly-201010-201110-bar http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-SK-monthly-201010-201110-... (You can check more countries from this region, you will see similiar results for Opera (Ukraine stands out though)). The reason for that is that Opera was the best browser without any doubt (think pre-firefox2 age). Only flaw was that it was not free - it was ad-sponsored. But you could get it for free of course, and users in Easterish Europe didn't really care.

Don't know why, but the page is completely broken when rendered in Opera. Perhaps the custom font?

by rplnt 15y ago

Don't know why, but the page is completely broken when rendered in Opera. Perhaps the custom font?

jodrellblank 15y ago

Perhaps the page isn't broken, the browser is.

burgerbrain 15y ago
1) The user doesn't care. Therefore it is the site's problem. 2) Works fine for me with Opera (linux). so shrug.
- danilocampos 15y ago
  Nah. When the browser has a single digit share, it's on the browser to make things render correctly. The user went to some trouble to get that arcane tool.
  - burgerbrain 15y ago
    "The user went to some trouble to get that arcane tool." Troll much?
    - danilocampos 15y ago
      Only when the mood strikes. It didn't above. "Who uses Opera?" seems to me a perfectly valid sentiment in favor of not spending one's limited energies on making sure something renders correctly for it. Hell, in a cousin, the abundantly reasonable admin of the linked site reports it's less than 1% of their traffic. Like I said, arcane. Worry about what real users use, I say.
      - burgerbrain 15y ago
        The trolly-ness was specifically the sentence I quoted. Anyone who is already aware of Opera (more people than you might think, usage != awareness) will not have any trouble acquiring it. I have numerous non-technical acquaintances that use it on their often aging hardware. It's not like we're talking about elinks here or something.
      - rplnt 15y ago
        Except it has share in tens of percents in some markets. The fact that it has 0.5% market share in US doesn't mean it has no market share at all. You are right that it doesn't make sense for US site to focus on Opera but your other statements are quite invalid.

crabwalk 15y ago

Looks fine to me in Opera Mac too, fwiw. (I run niemanlab.org, and I confess I don't do any testing in Opera, so I honestly appreciate any bug reports.) FYI, our browser breakdown: 31% Chrome, 28% Firefox, 15% desktop Safari, 11% IE, 10% iOS Safari, 3% Android browser, 0.74% Opera, 0.26% Opera Mini, 0.23% RockMelt (!).

rplnt 15y ago
Might be some userscript I have installed, thanks for the feedback. And as a bonus, browser stats from country I'm from: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-SK-monthly-201010-201110-bar http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-SK-monthly-201010-201110-... (You can check more countries from this region, you will see similiar results for Opera (Ukraine stands out though)). The reason for that is that Opera was the best browser without any doubt (think pre-firefox2 age). Only flaw was that it was not free - it was ad-sponsored. But you could get it for free of course, and users in Easterish Europe didn't really care.