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let's spin it the other way: what advantages would following the LSB have? there is little need for standard linux utilities to be easily ported to android, the

let's spin it the other way: what advantages would following the LSB have? there is little need for standard linux utilities to be easily ported to android, the standard utils are not included, and package management is dealt with in an android-specific way

a3_nm 15y ago
> there is little need for standard linux utilities to be easily ported to android There is need for that. I've been trying to ssh to my Android and use it like I would use a regular computer, and it's a nightmare to set up.
- Lammy 15y ago
  I had no trouble setting this up with QuickSSHd (not affiliated): https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.quicksshd https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.quicks...
  - a3_nm 15y ago
    The problem isn't getting ssh access (Cyanogen ships with the dropbear ssh server), but getting decent userland tools and possibly some form of package management. This is hard precisely because Android doesn't obey the LSB and assumes that mostly everything will be done in Java. It would be very nice to have an OS designed for phones which would be a standard Linux with additional stuff on top. Sadly, Android is more of a Linux kernel without standard tools but with a bulky alien Java-based stuff to do everything.
    - nitrogen 15y ago
      It would be very nice to have an OS designed for phones which would be a standard Linux with additional stuff on top. Sadly, Android is more of a Linux kernel without standard tools but with a bulky alien Java-based stuff to do everything. Maemo/Meego is/was exactly that: Debian Linux complete with apt, with a tablet and phone UI.
      - cpeterso 15y ago
        Has anyone tried creating a Debian/Android distribution (like Debian/kFreeBSD)? Mozilla's B2G (Boot To Gecko) OS uses the Android kernel without the Dalvik VM or frameworks. I don't know what B2G's userland looks like. A Debian/kAndroid distro could be what Maemo/Meego wanted to be, but benefit from Debian's popular userland and Android device support provided by Google and device manufacturers.
- deleted 15y ago
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- ibisum 15y ago
  Android is a regular computer, only one where the app frameworks are limited by intent and with reason.

a3_nm 15y ago

> there is little need for standard linux utilities to be easily ported to android There is need for that. I've been trying to ssh to my Android and use it like I would use a regular computer, and it's a nightmare to set up.

Lammy 15y ago
I had no trouble setting this up with QuickSSHd (not affiliated): https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.quicksshd https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.quicks...
- a3_nm 15y ago
  The problem isn't getting ssh access (Cyanogen ships with the dropbear ssh server), but getting decent userland tools and possibly some form of package management. This is hard precisely because Android doesn't obey the LSB and assumes that mostly everything will be done in Java. It would be very nice to have an OS designed for phones which would be a standard Linux with additional stuff on top. Sadly, Android is more of a Linux kernel without standard tools but with a bulky alien Java-based stuff to do everything.
  - nitrogen 15y ago
    It would be very nice to have an OS designed for phones which would be a standard Linux with additional stuff on top. Sadly, Android is more of a Linux kernel without standard tools but with a bulky alien Java-based stuff to do everything. Maemo/Meego is/was exactly that: Debian Linux complete with apt, with a tablet and phone UI.
    - cpeterso 15y ago
      Has anyone tried creating a Debian/Android distribution (like Debian/kFreeBSD)? Mozilla's B2G (Boot To Gecko) OS uses the Android kernel without the Dalvik VM or frameworks. I don't know what B2G's userland looks like. A Debian/kAndroid distro could be what Maemo/Meego wanted to be, but benefit from Debian's popular userland and Android device support provided by Google and device manufacturers.
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ibisum 15y ago
Android is a regular computer, only one where the app frameworks are limited by intent and with reason.