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> thats a ridiculous extrapolation This person also said that AI porn will destroy all the current porn companies in 10 years and that small groups of people w

> thats a ridiculous extrapolation This person also said that AI porn will destroy all the current porn companies in 10 years and that small groups of people will soon be able to make entire movies, so I wouldn't take their extrapolations too seriously.

echelon 4y ago
> This person also said that AI porn will destroy all the current porn companies in 10 years and that small groups of people will soon be able to make entire movies, Here's the thread in question [1] where I made that claim. > so I wouldn't take their extrapolations too seriously. Long bets 10 years $10,000. Let's go. I'm serious. Not that this is my thing (it isn't), and not to yuck anyone's yum, but my field has a ton of adjacent, quickly growing developments in "generated porn" that I would be remiss to not know about. Each and every one of them could shape up to be a "Pornhub killer", which is what we were originally debating : - Unstable Diffusion - Lewdtubers (look on Twitter) - AI waifu, waifu engine - Whatever this is: https://m.twitch.tv/nenoko_official https://m.twitch.tv/nenoko_official [2] Just as these technologies and democratization threaten Hollywood, so too do they threaten the porn industry. (My earlier comments in this thread were about the global playing field becoming equal in terms of production and consumption. This post concerns the technologies that will disrupt the existing products. Both trends are happening concurrently.) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 [2] One of my colleagues just recently pointed out this 100% autonomous, audience driven content. No humans are involved.
- ekianjo 4y ago
  > do they threaten the porn industry. In which world do you think the porn industry is just going to wait around doing nothing instead of exploiting these tools and resources for their own benefit?
  - echelon 4y ago
    It's typically new players that disrupt legacy incumbents. There are exceptions, such as monopolistic conglomerates with multiple industry-spanning revenue streams to draw down. But by and large, new tech cycles bring new blood and fresh perspectives that grow fast free of accumulated baggage. Would existing players be willing to invest 90% of their energy in pursuing these new methods (that are risky), potentially firing the staff that maintain the existing systems? Unlikely. And so it's unlikely that they could grow as fast against a 100% agile new upstart. One that attracts talent and capital and has a promising growth narrative. Innovator's Dilemma.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
Every other day I see some new machine learning post here about how you can make a computer generate all sorts of content. A few days ago I saw an article about AI generated art winning first prize in some contest, people lost their minds when it was revealed the art was generated by AI. I don't think holodeck style content generation technology is too far off. Maybe one day they'll generate computer code too.
- ekianjo 4y ago
  Art and especially art competitions are nothing objective.

echelon 4y ago

> This person also said that AI porn will destroy all the current porn companies in 10 years and that small groups of people will soon be able to make entire movies, Here's the thread in question [1] where I made that claim. > so I wouldn't take their extrapolations too seriously. Long bets 10 years $10,000. Let's go. I'm serious. Not that this is my thing (it isn't), and not to yuck anyone's yum, but my field has a ton of adjacent, quickly growing developments in "generated porn" that I would be remiss to not know about. Each and every one of them could shape up to be a "Pornhub killer", which is what we were originally debating : - Unstable Diffusion - Lewdtubers (look on Twitter) - AI waifu, waifu engine - Whatever this is: https://m.twitch.tv/nenoko_official https://m.twitch.tv/nenoko_official [2] Just as these technologies and democratization threaten Hollywood, so too do they threaten the porn industry. (My earlier comments in this thread were about the global playing field becoming equal in terms of production and consumption. This post concerns the technologies that will disrupt the existing products. Both trends are happening concurrently.) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711614 [2] One of my colleagues just recently pointed out this 100% autonomous, audience driven content. No humans are involved.

ekianjo 4y ago
> do they threaten the porn industry. In which world do you think the porn industry is just going to wait around doing nothing instead of exploiting these tools and resources for their own benefit?
- echelon 4y ago
  It's typically new players that disrupt legacy incumbents. There are exceptions, such as monopolistic conglomerates with multiple industry-spanning revenue streams to draw down. But by and large, new tech cycles bring new blood and fresh perspectives that grow fast free of accumulated baggage. Would existing players be willing to invest 90% of their energy in pursuing these new methods (that are risky), potentially firing the staff that maintain the existing systems? Unlikely. And so it's unlikely that they could grow as fast against a 100% agile new upstart. One that attracts talent and capital and has a promising growth narrative. Innovator's Dilemma.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

Every other day I see some new machine learning post here about how you can make a computer generate all sorts of content. A few days ago I saw an article about AI generated art winning first prize in some contest, people lost their minds when it was revealed the art was generated by AI. I don't think holodeck style content generation technology is too far off. Maybe one day they'll generate computer code too.

ekianjo 4y ago
Art and especially art competitions are nothing objective.