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> So are you saying you do things just so people remember you? No, that's the opposite of what I'm saying. > I wonder where would we as a species be if Newton
by toomanyrichies 4y ago
> So are you saying you do things just so people remember you?
No, that's the opposite of what I'm saying.
> I wonder where would we as a species be if Newton or Einstein or Steve Jobs and a million others who contributed their little might to advancing our species forward thought the same?
Is my life better because those people did what they did? Absolutely. Would I be sad if they hadn't existed, or had lived a less noteworthy life? Probably not, because I wouldn't know any better.
If you Google "Who was the smartest person in history?", you'll probably encounter the name William James Sidis, who reportedly had taught himself multiple languages (and invented another) by the age of 8. In 1925 he wrote a book called "The Animate and the Inanimate", which (among other things) predicted the existence of black holes almost 15 years before Einstein did. And yet, we'll never know what ground-breaking work he could have done or advancements he could have made.
Because he chose to live a life of solitude, and died of a brain hemorrhage at the age of 46.
Imagine for a minute that I could travel to an alternate universe, one where Sidis became the next Newton and made incredible discoveries that advanced the course of human knowledge and contributed to countless new discoveries to which I bore witness. I might be more depressed as a result, if I saw how much better off humanity's lot was. But imagine if I saw that we'd be worse off. Maybe Sidis would have discovered scientific principles which would have been usurped by Hitler or the like to build weapons that made the atom bomb looks like a child's toy, and which humanity used to destroy itself. If that's what I saw in this alternate universe, I'd be happier since I'd know that we had avoided that fate. Odds are, his contributions would have been a bit of a mixed bag.
But it doesn't matter, because I can't mourn what I can't see.
The answer to "where will we as a species be?" is (eventually) "consigned to the dustbin of history". We can make every effort to be the next Newton or Einstein or Steve Jobs. And if we make someone else's life more comfortable or interesting or fun or whatever in the meantime, I'd argue that's a worthy pursuit.
But re-read that Carl Sagan quote I linked to earlier [1], and think about how insignificant their contributions were in the grand scheme of things. I hope they enjoyed themselves while they were alive. Because now that they're gone, the clock is ticking on their legacy. Think of the most famous person you can (Jesus, Gandhi, etc.), and know that there will come a day when someone will utter that person's name for the last time.
You don't owe the future of humanity anything. Nor did Newton, Einstein, or Jobs. That hypothetical future humanity doesn't even exist yet, and given our trajectory as a species, it's almost hubris to assume that they will.
1. https://www.planetary.org/worlds/pale-blue-dot https://www.planetary.org/worlds/pale-blue-dot
- mmh0000 4y agoYour post really intrigued me and now I have to read the book. If anyone else wants to read it as well, it’s available in multiple formats from the internet archive: https://archive.org/details/TheAnimateAndTheInanimate.W.J.Sidis https://archive.org/details/TheAnimateAndTheInanimate.W.J.Si...
- onos 4y agoI don’t buy it personally. The logic you give to suggest we don’t have a responsibility to help others seems like it would also just as well imply we can feel free to hurt others, and I disagree with that. Finally, within the frame of our social existence: we enjoy a lot of benefits that we inherit from our ancestors and I think it’s our responsibility to pay that forward to future generations. We should maintain what we have inherited and if possible improve the state of things as well. But, of course, we should also be concerned with our personal enjoyment as well.
- toomanyrichies 4y ago> ...seems like it would also just as well imply we can feel free to hurt others, and I disagree with that. I would disagree with that as well. I'd simply argue that the reason why we shouldn't feel free to hurt others is because we likely wouldn't want others to hurt us, and their feelings are just as valid as ours.
- onos 4y agoBut I’d also like others to do what they can to help society.
- toomanyrichies 4y agoI've got a quote (some would say a cliché?) for most situations, including this one: "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." -Howard Thurman If people "come alive" by helping society, then that's great. But "helping society" can be defined in many ways, big and small. If someone's definition of "helping society" is being a street busker and lifting someone's spirit with their music, who am I to judge?