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The resale value is not that great either. My phone, bought for 600 euros 2 years ago (it was already an older mode, by the way) now has a value of 200 euros if

The resale value is not that great either. My phone, bought for 600 euros 2 years ago (it was already an older mode, by the way) now has a value of 200 euros if we see the price if sold used to a person through an online used items announcement marketplace, if sold to a store it has zero value. Anyway I don't usually sell phones, when I change a phone (that is not often, till now I only has 3 smartphones, two Androids and the iPhone that I currently have, on average I keep a phone 5 years, especially my first Android was born with Android 4.0 and I stopped using it with Android 7, changing trying out all the custom roms that were available) I usually end up giving it to somebody in my family anyway that upgrades its old phone. > All of your points about installing software outside of the app store are valid and if that's what you need, iOS is not for you and I think that's okay. Choosing the platform that best supports the software you need to run has always been how you decide what to buy. The other way around doesn't make any sense. It would be like buying an PS5 and then saying it sucks because you can't run Excel on it. I think it's not only that. I think that Apple practice should be considered illegal (and I think the European commission will need to take an action like they did with Microsoft and Google) since it's abuse of dominant position. You are forcing the developers to pass trough the App Store, and thus be forced to support payment trough Apple Pay and thus give a percentage (that is not small, by the way) of your profit to Apple. This to me is not right. Having the possibility to install third-party "app stores" on Apple devices should be a requirement by law. I don't said that it should be simple, a user may do something difficult to do that (if the reason is to protect unaware users that would otherwise install malware on their phones) but it should be possible.

criddell 4y ago
> I think that Apple practice should be considered illegal If they go down that path, it will affect Apple but it might be devastating to other closed platform vendors. These are interesting times...
- alerighi 4y ago
  Yes, this law should apply to any operating system in a general purpose device, such as a PC, smartphone or tablet. In reality the only vendor that doesn't allow the installation of software from sources that are not the official store (as far as I'm aware of) is Apple. I'm not saying that it should be easy, in Android you have to go trough the settings and enable an option, this is correct since you don't want people installing .apk that are received via email with one click, but it should be possible to do.
  - criddell 4y ago
    Done forget about the Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony game consoles! Those are what I'm most excited for being opened. I would love to be able to run stuff I write on my PS5.
    - alerighi 4y ago
      To me that is (to this day) less important, since modern consoles are actually PCs with a custom form factor, that you can build with mostly off the shelf parts. In the past it was different, but consoles were always modded (except the modern ones, but I would say for a lack of interest).

criddell 4y ago

> I think that Apple practice should be considered illegal If they go down that path, it will affect Apple but it might be devastating to other closed platform vendors. These are interesting times...

alerighi 4y ago
Yes, this law should apply to any operating system in a general purpose device, such as a PC, smartphone or tablet. In reality the only vendor that doesn't allow the installation of software from sources that are not the official store (as far as I'm aware of) is Apple. I'm not saying that it should be easy, in Android you have to go trough the settings and enable an option, this is correct since you don't want people installing .apk that are received via email with one click, but it should be possible to do.
- criddell 4y ago
  Done forget about the Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony game consoles! Those are what I'm most excited for being opened. I would love to be able to run stuff I write on my PS5.
  - alerighi 4y ago
    To me that is (to this day) less important, since modern consoles are actually PCs with a custom form factor, that you can build with mostly off the shelf parts. In the past it was different, but consoles were always modded (except the modern ones, but I would say for a lack of interest).