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Punishing people for "free speech" is a complex topic not a binary decision. Plenty of hateful speech that threatens or harasses could already be deemed a crime
by causality0 4y ago
Punishing people for "free speech" is a complex topic not a binary decision. Plenty of hateful speech that threatens or harasses could already be deemed a crime if its specific enough.
Certainly, which is why I used the specific example of "saying racist things on the internet". It isn't a threat or harassment to tweet about how "those filthy stinking Norwegians keep sneaking into our country on reindeer-back and we need to deport them all before they molest our horses" but it would still be a crime in the UK as hate speech.
- michaelmrose 4y agoIf they aren't actually sneaking into your country on reindeer-back and you are just trying to stir up hate for blonds I have no problem with you being punished for inciting hate.
- causality0 4y agoSee? You are the answer to Who is calling for people to be arrested for what they say? Or to be blocked from being able to say it out loud? I said a significant fraction of the HN user base shares your opinion and user D23 said he didn't understand how anyone could think that was true. Well, Q.E.D.
- michaelmrose 4y agoIf speech is provably false and part of a pattern of disinformation designed to stir up hate and violence why is it a problem to police it? See the disinfo about jewish people followed thereafter by the mass murder of jewish people.
- causality0 4y agoIf speech is provably false and part of a pattern of disinformation designed to stir up hate and violence why is it a problem to police it? My opinion on that is irrelevant because that isn't the topic of discussion. This comment chain regards d23's disagreement with my assertion that a significant fraction of the HN user base (like you) believe hate speech should be illegal. I'm not saying you're right or wrong; I'm just saying you exist on this website.