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+1 on that. I only watched the action sequences in the movie as RRR is not the kind if movie I enjoy. But the end of the movie, makes it quite clear that it is
by random314 4y ago
+1 on that. I only watched the action sequences in the movie as RRR is not the kind if movie I enjoy.
But the end of the movie, makes it quite clear that it is a nod to right wing Hindu nationalism. The most pointed example is the exclusion, in the end credits, of the 2 biggest icons of Indian liberation - Mahatma Gandhi and the first prime minister Nehru( the British locked him up for over a decade) who were secular liberals. Nehru happens to be the great grandfather of the main opposition leader Rahul Gandhi.
As the right wing Hindu pre independence movement largely connived with the colonialists, the right wing government today is focused on appropriating a select few independence fighters and projecting them as right wing icons even though they were liberals or socialists. 3 prominent figures.
1. Bhagat Singh - a socialist who is now projected as a right wing icon and stripped of his Sikh beard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh
2. Sardar Patel - Nehru and Gandhis colleague who had some right wing sympathies, but actually banned RSS (Modi's organization) following the assassination of Gandhi by RSS workers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Unity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Unity
3. Subhash Bose - A foolhardy military strategist who tried to partner with the Nazis to fight the British. Eventually, assisting the Japanese in Burma and helping them invade India. Gandhi was extremely wary of Bose's plans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose
Towards the end, it projects the independence fight as a largely Hindu fight against British and anoints upper caste Rama as a leader of lower caste Bheem. At this point, it seems that the exclusion of muslims, sikhs and some Christians etc. From the script as freedom fighters seems deliberate.
Bheem is a nod to lower caste icon bhimrao Ambedkar, who converted from Hinduism to buddhism to escape caste hierarchies. This could have been a positive inclusion in the story, but it is flipped on its head when Bheem is shown swearing fealty to upper caste Rama in the end. The Ramayana itself, has a negative attitude towards lower castes, which makes this highly improper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambuka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambuka [1]
Moreover the choice of Rama is sensitive in the current political situation in India as Rama is being used as a tool to bully poor Muslims on the streets.
https://www.google.com/search?q=muslim+jai+shree+ram https://www.google.com/search?q=muslim+jai+shree+ram
[1] You will notice that Shambuka is noted as an "interpolated" character in Ramayana. This almost certainly true, but the Godliness of Rama as an avatar of Vishnu is part of the same interpolation. The original smaller Ramayana is simply the story of an "ideal king". This was converted into a story of divinity by the interpolation of Godliness, sexism and casteism(uttara and bala kanda) . Wikipedia has been edited to clarify that Shambuka is a later interpolation, while the article on Rama and Ramayana simply forget to headline that the divinity of Rama is a later interpolation. The interpolation makes complete sense as the brahmins successfully solidified the caste system and inserted casteist and sexist texts into several ancient sanskrit texts to anoint the caste system with divine status. There is a small ongoing movement to refer to the current version of Hinduism as Brahminism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Brahminism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Brahminism
- dagmx 4y agoThank you for adding to the list of subtleties that foreigners wouldn’t pick up on. These are great points and I’m very appreciative you took the time to list them My wife isn’t Indian and she really enjoyed the film (which I did too as an action film) but I was aware the whole time of significant choices used to push the Hindu nationalist messaging. So I’ve been using it as an example of explaining the political climate in India As a Hindu myself , but with a mixed caste/religion family, I’ve slowly been realizing how much messaging there has been in the media we consume as I expand on this with her.
- random314 4y agoCaste discrimination doesn't get as much air, but here is what urban casteism look like https://youtu.be/x_9326pheho https://youtu.be/x_9326pheho For rural caste discrimination there are enough incidents like Hathras rape, but this movie gives a good perspective https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandry
- unmole 4y ago> At this point, it seems that the exclusion of muslims, sikhs and some Christians etc. From the script as freedom fighters seems deliberate. It's a fantasy based very loosely on two historical characters. Bheem for the bulk of the movie pretends to be a Muslim and is sheltered by a Muslim family that knows his true identity. Claiming that this somehow excludes non-Hindus is farcical. > Bheem is a nod to lower caste icon bhimrao Ambedkar Bheem is loosely based on Komaram Bheem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komaram_Bheem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komaram_Bheem and Ram is loosely based on Alluri Sitaramaraju: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluri_Sitarama_Raju https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluri_Sitarama_Raju You are ignorant of even the basic premise of the movie. But hey, don't let that stop you from theorising grand conspiracies.
- random314 4y agoThat Ram can map to Alluri, but the mapping to Lord Rama is absolutely loud and vociferous. I could be mistaken about the mapping of Bheem, but given that Komaram Bheem is also lower caste, my meta point stands virtually unchanged. And that's just one point amongst the 10 I have made with references. Moreover, it is very easy for me to see that you are upper caste hindu - about 40% of indias population. You should ask the rest of the 60% about what they read from the movie. > pretends to be a Muslim Yes, I watched parts of the movie. How does this matter?