> (And yes, I did read up on the terms. His criticism is still vague and does not seem rooted in actual experience as a programmer, teacher or programming langu

> (And yes, I did read up on the terms. His criticism is still vague and does not seem rooted in actual experience as a programmer, teacher or programming language designer.) This being precisely why I found it to be a fresh and interesting viewpoint; I've heard a lot from programmers and language designers on this topic, I hadn't heard from linguists before. I found their use of different tools of thought than I had seen applied to this area intriguing and it made me see things in a different way; you seem to have interpreted this as "using the wrong tools" because they weren't the ones you were used to. This is exactly what I was saying; you're limiting the conversation to an insular set of perspectives. You've bought my premise about what you're saying, and in lieu of justification you've provided some cheap insults. I'm glad we understand each other.