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Well, for awhile there was lots of talk about CRT. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/texas-critical-race-theory-law/#:~:text=Republican%20bill%20that%20li
by Twistyfiasco 4y ago
Well, for awhile there was lots of talk about CRT. https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/texas-critical-race-theory-law/#:~:text=Republican%20bill%20that%20limits%20how,public%20policy%20or%20social%20affairs.%E2%80%9D https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/02/texas-critical-race-...
- hotpotamus 4y agohttps://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/lawmakers-push-to-ban-1619-project-from-schools/2021/02 https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/lawmakers-push-to-b... Don’t forget the 1619 Project.
- OrvalWintermute 4y agoThe 1619 project has been widely lambasted as unhistorical political educating. https://www.city-journal.org/1619-project-conspiracy-theory https://www.city-journal.org/1619-project-conspiracy-theory
- hotpotamus 4y agoOk. So it’s ok to restrict it?
- bee_rider 4y agoThis appears to be a single article with 0 sources, not evidence that it has been widely lambasted.
- remarkEon 4y agoIt's been talked about repeatedly in places like The Atlantic, that it's ideology masquerading as "history". https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/historians-clash-1619-project/604093/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/historians... https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/11/19/american-slavery-and-the-relentless-unforeseen/ https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/11/19/american-slavery-an...
- illuminerdy 4y agoOn the contrary, we should all forget the "1619 Project".
- hotpotamus 4y agoI suspect that’s the point of restricting speech about it.
- OrvalWintermute 4y agoconflates the topic of free speech, with state-funded education that teaches people they are automatically oppressed (privilege theory), and teaching to a captive audience (students).
- illuminerdy 4y agoWell, it's already a well-established principle that, when you take taxpayer money from the government, the government gets to attach conditions to it as they see fit. That's not a violation of any individual rights.
- hotpotamus 4y agoI'd say that's a well-unestablished principle now. https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/court-strikes-down-maines-ban-on-using-public-funds-at-religious-schools/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/court-strikes-down-maines...
- Karunamon 4y agoRegardless of your stance on this topic, this is a bad example. Regulating what teachers are allowed to tell students in the course of their employment as teachers is not a freedom of speech issue, any more than the owner of a fast food restaurant requiring their employees to upsell is a freedom of speech issue. Yes, there are higher ideals in play in the first case, but that does not make it a freedom of speech issue, legally or even ethically. Employers can regulate what you say while working for them on their time, and that holds whether the employer is private or public.
- Jensson 4y agoSimilarly biology teachers aren't allowed to teach intelligent design unless it is a part of the curriculum, you can't just teach whatever theory you want without the school boards permission. I don't think that biology teachers should teach intelligent design, and I don't think that is a free speech violation.
- hotpotamus 4y agoSo what would you do if you found out your child's biology teacher was speaking to them about intelligent design?
- Jensson 4y agoThey would get fired with cause since they aren't doing their job properly.
- hotpotamus 4y agoExactly why I think this sort of fundamentalist belief in free speech is silly.