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Yes and no. Marx saw the Luddism movement, which sought a retreat into artisanal and cottage industries through industrial sabotage, as fundamentally misdirecte
by pxc 4y ago
Yes and no. Marx saw the Luddism movement, which sought a retreat into artisanal and cottage industries through industrial sabotage, as fundamentally misdirected. But the uncompromising need for constant growth is absolutely implicated in the destructive character of capitalism for Marx.
For Marx's own writing on the relationship between capitalism and ecological destruction, look up the phrase 'metabolic rift'.
The most famous Marxist ecosocialist I can think of is John Bellamy Foster. Some of his articles and book reviews for Monthly Review might be a good place to start for a look at ecology in contemporary Marxism: https://monthlyreview.org/author/johnbellamyfoster/ https://monthlyreview.org/author/johnbellamyfoster/
In social ecology and the broader (post-)Marxist ecosocialist movement, Murray Bookchin is a huge deal. He argued for reorganizing cities, agriculture, and industry in specific ways for ecological reasons. You can read a lot of his books and articles for free here: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/murray-bookchin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/murray-bookc...
Any of these sources can give you a sense of why Marxists don't think the necessary changes for stopping pollution will ever come from enlightening capitalists who then change their behavior as business owners in light of their ecological education.
- ZeroGravitas 4y agoThanks for the links. Some interesting stuff. I think that 'degrowth' might be one of those 'defund the police' type things, where a good idea is summed up with a short phrase that becomes popular partly because the idea's opponents see it as absurd. I'd never really dug into it as it mostly seemed to be something that reactionaries talked about to rile each other up. I guess it's like saying GDP isn't a good thing to aim for in society. Some people think that's stupid, because they think GDP measures quality of life, while other people think it's sensible because they think GDP doesn't measure quality of life. Which leads to some confusing conversations. And if 'growth' is implied to be 'growth of GDP regardless of sustainability etc.' then it's the same conversation.