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It is very naive to think it will stay this way. Now that Apple made this move, cell providers in any country will be forced to provide e-sims to stay in busine

It is very naive to think it will stay this way. Now that Apple made this move, cell providers in any country will be forced to provide e-sims to stay in business. Apple has such a huge influence it won't take years but months even if it only targets us smartphones. Other phone manufacturers will follow this decision sooner than later.

AussieWog93 4y ago
I don't think the average phone provider in Cambodia will worry too much about the list revenue from not supporting a particular variant of iPhone 14.
- cowtools 4y ago
  It will eventually trickle into the low-end android market, especially if it can be used to save cost.
- greenburger 4y ago
  Guessing you don’t live in Cambodia [0]. [0]https://www.statista.com/statistics/930856/cambodia-mobile-os-share/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/930856/cambodia-mobile-o...
  - AussieWog93 4y ago
    Don't live there but did visit back in 2017. Everyone back then had third-hand used stuff that I suspect was mostly ex-eWaste. Smartphones were not ubiquitous. I see the graph but don't believe it, especially given how much of their economy is tourism.
  - brokenodo 4y ago
    Only the US variants lack a physical SIM tray.
    - wtmt 4y ago
      At least from the Indian experience, I’d wager that tons of iPhones from the US find their way into other countries because it’s way cheaper to get it from there than pay local prices that may include higher customs duties, higher (than US) taxes, etc. It’s possible that a lot of iPhones in Cambodia are/were originally sold in the US.
Vibgyor5 4y ago
That's a very North-American-centric view. You're overestimating influence of iPhone customers on telecom providers - especially in developing countries where they're often <5% of the users.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
  In developing countries I'm not sure, but the introduction of eSIM on iPhones is why I can get one in an increasing number of European countries, and it makes travel soooo much easier (and cheaper).
- razemio 4y ago
  I think especially in developing countries e-sims will be huge. They save cost in the end for phone manufacturers and cell providers. It won't take long until low end android phones will have e-sim only options aswell. Maybe u are right and I am overestimating the influence of apple. Only time can tell.
mort96 4y ago
How large of a market share do you think "immigrants from the US who recently immigrated but still use the iPhone 14 they bought in their origin country" makes up? My bet is that it's quite small in a whole lot of places. Will cell providers really scramble to appease them?

AussieWog93 4y ago

I don't think the average phone provider in Cambodia will worry too much about the list revenue from not supporting a particular variant of iPhone 14.

cowtools 4y ago
It will eventually trickle into the low-end android market, especially if it can be used to save cost.
greenburger 4y ago
Guessing you don’t live in Cambodia [0]. [0]https://www.statista.com/statistics/930856/cambodia-mobile-os-share/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/930856/cambodia-mobile-o...
- AussieWog93 4y ago
  Don't live there but did visit back in 2017. Everyone back then had third-hand used stuff that I suspect was mostly ex-eWaste. Smartphones were not ubiquitous. I see the graph but don't believe it, especially given how much of their economy is tourism.
- brokenodo 4y ago
  Only the US variants lack a physical SIM tray.
  - wtmt 4y ago
    At least from the Indian experience, I’d wager that tons of iPhones from the US find their way into other countries because it’s way cheaper to get it from there than pay local prices that may include higher customs duties, higher (than US) taxes, etc. It’s possible that a lot of iPhones in Cambodia are/were originally sold in the US.

Vibgyor5 4y ago

That's a very North-American-centric view. You're overestimating influence of iPhone customers on telecom providers - especially in developing countries where they're often <5% of the users.

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
In developing countries I'm not sure, but the introduction of eSIM on iPhones is why I can get one in an increasing number of European countries, and it makes travel soooo much easier (and cheaper).
razemio 4y ago
I think especially in developing countries e-sims will be huge. They save cost in the end for phone manufacturers and cell providers. It won't take long until low end android phones will have e-sim only options aswell. Maybe u are right and I am overestimating the influence of apple. Only time can tell.

mort96 4y ago

How large of a market share do you think "immigrants from the US who recently immigrated but still use the iPhone 14 they bought in their origin country" makes up? My bet is that it's quite small in a whole lot of places. Will cell providers really scramble to appease them?