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"It’s an innovative, simple tactic to take the air out of someone’s tires, it’s not harmful, it’s just annoying." Making people's vehicles unsafe to drive is h

"It’s an innovative, simple tactic to take the air out of someone’s tires, it’s not harmful, it’s just annoying." Making people's vehicles unsafe to drive is harmful, not just annoying. They are criminals, not merely "activists".

smoldesu 4y ago
Sounds like it's all fun-and-games until someone realizes that Teslas have air in their tires too.
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
The previous sentence: "The target of public shaming is very unlikely to change their opinion from the shaming, so the question is, what’s the point?" That simple question was never answered, as far as I could see. They're unlikely to change their attitude, and they're unlikely to change their car. So what's the point? To make the people doing it feel like they're doing something. That's the only point.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  It was answered in the 15th paragraph. While many US cities lack decent public transport options, “it does not follow logically that we should flood our streets with dangerous, oversized, glacier-melting SUVs when smaller and more efficient vehicles that could easily satisfy most motorists’ needs exist,” according to Doug Gordon, co-host of the popular The War on Cars podcast and an avid New York cyclist. “If the Tyre Extinguishers spark a conversation about the absurdity of driving a 6,000lb Cadillac Escalade to pick up a 60lb kid from soccer practice, then good for them.” This is a valid question. It's unclear why the public at large should pick up the negative externality of some people's desire to drive in a large carriage. Raising the cost of ownership is a market-minded asymmetrical strategy.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    If. The sentence before the one I cited said that even the people doing it think it won't spark change in the SUV drivers, so... if there's a "conversation about the absurdity", but those who drive SUVs still drive SUVs, then... what? We're where we were.
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      You can expect negative results in the short term and be more optimistic about succeeding over the long term. I think you understand this quite well, here on this news site run by ycombinator, a technology incubator.
      - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        I can expect negative results in the long term from this strategy, even though we are on HN.
anigbrowl 4y ago
I bet you have attended celebrations of throwing tea in the harbor.

smoldesu 4y ago

Sounds like it's all fun-and-games until someone realizes that Teslas have air in their tires too.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

The previous sentence: "The target of public shaming is very unlikely to change their opinion from the shaming, so the question is, what’s the point?" That simple question was never answered, as far as I could see. They're unlikely to change their attitude, and they're unlikely to change their car. So what's the point? To make the people doing it feel like they're doing something. That's the only point.

anigbrowl 4y ago
It was answered in the 15th paragraph. While many US cities lack decent public transport options, “it does not follow logically that we should flood our streets with dangerous, oversized, glacier-melting SUVs when smaller and more efficient vehicles that could easily satisfy most motorists’ needs exist,” according to Doug Gordon, co-host of the popular The War on Cars podcast and an avid New York cyclist. “If the Tyre Extinguishers spark a conversation about the absurdity of driving a 6,000lb Cadillac Escalade to pick up a 60lb kid from soccer practice, then good for them.” This is a valid question. It's unclear why the public at large should pick up the negative externality of some people's desire to drive in a large carriage. Raising the cost of ownership is a market-minded asymmetrical strategy.
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  If. The sentence before the one I cited said that even the people doing it think it won't spark change in the SUV drivers, so... if there's a "conversation about the absurdity", but those who drive SUVs still drive SUVs, then... what? We're where we were.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    You can expect negative results in the short term and be more optimistic about succeeding over the long term. I think you understand this quite well, here on this news site run by ycombinator, a technology incubator.
    - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
      I can expect negative results in the long term from this strategy, even though we are on HN.

anigbrowl 4y ago

I bet you have attended celebrations of throwing tea in the harbor.