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YouTube killed learning on their platform, when they killed the downvote. They removed the one metric that people had to signal that content is crap. So now pe

YouTube killed learning on their platform, when they killed the downvote. They removed the one metric that people had to signal that content is crap. So now people have to trust that "the algorithm" is filtering out all the junk. Which of course we know doesn't happen. The algorithm only cares about engagement, it doesn't care if the content is of good quality or even truthful.

pferdone 4y ago
Yeah, how will I know a course is worth it without visible user feedback?
Koshkin 4y ago
> content is crap But that would be just someone’s personal opinion (or worse). Why should I care? Besides, people discuss things on forums, and a more detailed review is more useful than a simple vote. Finally, it is often not that hard to see whether the presentation or the content is worth your while from the first few minutes of watching it. (There are, of course, some cases when watching is made difficult because of the presenter’s excessive showing their face or gesticulation, or having a distracting accent, but even those do not necessarily deserve being called “crap.”)
- svnpenn 4y ago
  Is this a serious comment? Your comment here is so obviously misguided that it borders on comedy. If you're serious, I can give a serious reply.
- rurp 4y ago
  I can scan hundreds of vote counts in the time it takes to watch a few minutes of a single video. Google chose to make this process orders of magnitude worse for no good reason. Also, why should I care about the algorithm's opinion? IME it's much much worse on average than the up+down vote ratio from thousands of individuals.
supperrtadderr 4y ago
I now use a quick views to like ratio to see if a video is any good (usually for tutorials of things) For instance a few weeks ago I was stuck on a quest in WoW Classic, so I did a quick YouTube search, 100k+ view video, dozens of likes. Yeah the video sucked and didn't show anything worthwhile.

pferdone 4y ago

Yeah, how will I know a course is worth it without visible user feedback?

Koshkin 4y ago

> content is crap But that would be just someone’s personal opinion (or worse). Why should I care? Besides, people discuss things on forums, and a more detailed review is more useful than a simple vote. Finally, it is often not that hard to see whether the presentation or the content is worth your while from the first few minutes of watching it. (There are, of course, some cases when watching is made difficult because of the presenter’s excessive showing their face or gesticulation, or having a distracting accent, but even those do not necessarily deserve being called “crap.”)

svnpenn 4y ago
Is this a serious comment? Your comment here is so obviously misguided that it borders on comedy. If you're serious, I can give a serious reply.
rurp 4y ago
I can scan hundreds of vote counts in the time it takes to watch a few minutes of a single video. Google chose to make this process orders of magnitude worse for no good reason. Also, why should I care about the algorithm's opinion? IME it's much much worse on average than the up+down vote ratio from thousands of individuals.

supperrtadderr 4y ago

I now use a quick views to like ratio to see if a video is any good (usually for tutorials of things) For instance a few weeks ago I was stuck on a quest in WoW Classic, so I did a quick YouTube search, 100k+ view video, dozens of likes. Yeah the video sucked and didn't show anything worthwhile.