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The ability to write that comment?

by jonas21 4y ago

jonny_eh 4y ago
And more importantly, not fearing being sued for accidentally saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.
- paganel 4y ago
  And having a cleaner conscience down the road.
BoorishBears 4y ago
Maybe I'm just the worst kind of person because I'd 100% sign that and still talk. I get that with tech salaries 40k is practically a relocation fee, but I see those agreements as being about as binding as an EULA. I'd revel in them coming after me and can't for the life of me imagine damages past the 40k they offered unless you straight up lie.
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- ipaddr 4y ago
  Leaving that kind of money on the table to share a story is not a practical action that makes sense to me without a six figure book deal in place.
- wpietri 4y ago
  This sounds like it's coming from somebody who has never been sued, and never seen up close how painful it is. My mom was sued after she declared bankruptcy after a business failure. Her lawyer was strongly optimistic and the judge not only found in her favor, but also gave opposing counsel a dressing down that still warms my heart. Even so, it was 18 months of being put through the ringer. If she lost it would have been devastating, so she was always living under a cloud. And that period was both painful and expensive. So the concern isn't some sort of cash damage at the end of a trial, but everything leading up to it. Would they have come after me for anything I've said so far? Probably not. But probably isn't definitely. Even without signing it, I still have to measure every word against the odds I'll make somebody at Twitter mad enough to try to make an example of me. Signing would have made that much more fraught.
  - BoorishBears 4y ago
    Well I think it's quite simple... You're willing to sacrifice 40k to make comments on HN freely. I'm not only willing, but would truly relish, even years fighting over some kitchen sieve of a anti-defamation contract in court. (all while the employer is forced to air out exactly what they tried to pay me off for mind you) I'm not saying the latter approach is everyone's cup of tea, but I can definitely tell you which one I think is more likely to make an impact that hurts them...
    - wpietri 4y ago
      I believe you have that belief about yourself. But I still think it's not a belief informed by experience. Don't let me stop you from trying, though.

The ability to write that comment?

jonny_eh 4y ago

And more importantly, not fearing being sued for accidentally saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.

paganel 4y ago
And having a cleaner conscience down the road.

BoorishBears 4y ago

Maybe I'm just the worst kind of person because I'd 100% sign that and still talk. I get that with tech salaries 40k is practically a relocation fee, but I see those agreements as being about as binding as an EULA. I'd revel in them coming after me and can't for the life of me imagine damages past the 40k they offered unless you straight up lie.

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ipaddr 4y ago
Leaving that kind of money on the table to share a story is not a practical action that makes sense to me without a six figure book deal in place.
wpietri 4y ago
This sounds like it's coming from somebody who has never been sued, and never seen up close how painful it is. My mom was sued after she declared bankruptcy after a business failure. Her lawyer was strongly optimistic and the judge not only found in her favor, but also gave opposing counsel a dressing down that still warms my heart. Even so, it was 18 months of being put through the ringer. If she lost it would have been devastating, so she was always living under a cloud. And that period was both painful and expensive. So the concern isn't some sort of cash damage at the end of a trial, but everything leading up to it. Would they have come after me for anything I've said so far? Probably not. But probably isn't definitely. Even without signing it, I still have to measure every word against the odds I'll make somebody at Twitter mad enough to try to make an example of me. Signing would have made that much more fraught.
- BoorishBears 4y ago
  Well I think it's quite simple... You're willing to sacrifice 40k to make comments on HN freely. I'm not only willing, but would truly relish, even years fighting over some kitchen sieve of a anti-defamation contract in court. (all while the employer is forced to air out exactly what they tried to pay me off for mind you) I'm not saying the latter approach is everyone's cup of tea, but I can definitely tell you which one I think is more likely to make an impact that hurts them...
  - wpietri 4y ago
    I believe you have that belief about yourself. But I still think it's not a belief informed by experience. Don't let me stop you from trying, though.