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It's weird that you assume "builder" means "programmer." At a healthy software company, most roles are builder roles: - designer - product manager - marketer

It's weird that you assume "builder" means "programmer." At a healthy software company, most roles are builder roles: - designer - product manager - marketer - sales - customer success Each of these roles delivers something additive. They make the product easier or nicer to use, make it address the market better, or even just make people aware that it exists. Marketers build complex promotional structures to gain users. Salespeople put together actual accounts paying actual money so the product can continue to improve. Customer success helps people use the product, and a good CS team filters high-signal feedback back to the product & engineering orgs. People in all of these roles (and more) are building the product. If their roles were cut, the product would be worse: uglier, slower, less useful, less used, less purchased, and less successful. However, there are roles that attract folks who don't want to build. It's smart to get rid of them.

evr1isnxprt 4y ago
You can try to sell me on it emotionally but it isn’t going to happen. Economic trade is just something humans do. Babbling about it in rambling fluffy semantics is not what gives rise to economic activity. A lot of these builders should build themselves into fuller better rounded people than office workers who memorized an emotional caricature they use to extract attention from others. HR, marketing, etc exist to insulate financiers, give off an air of building big ideas, but it’s layers of indirection so the financier can avoid real work. The majority don’t have to import your relative emotional context anymore than they have to import a preachers religion. That’s what’s going down with the economy; the majority are tired of the over hyped coddled office worker. This is just the start of the barnacle shedding. Source? Data models forecasting economic “plot lines” I collate with others to inform investment choices, not a bunch of high emotion semantic gibberish intended to sell me on a relative perspective. SEs and otherwise, too many are addicted to an emotional confidence game that is sapping agency in other contexts. This is low hanging fruit being shed, but ML will come for content creators and SEs sooner than most expect; it’s all electron state in machines. Generating data/code as a job will be automated; that is a stated goal of many powers that be in tech. I’m not the only one who sees it; in a 2 year old interview Gabe Newell was calling ML content creation an extinction level event that’s right around the corner. More and more “builders” of hype and ephemera are going to be receiving the wake up call as the months and years progress. Building layers of indirection as a career is not long for this world. But more simply; “software builders” is not language I see as constrained to SE. Like you said it takes a village to build a software business. I think you inferred a bit much.

evr1isnxprt 4y ago

You can try to sell me on it emotionally but it isn’t going to happen. Economic trade is just something humans do. Babbling about it in rambling fluffy semantics is not what gives rise to economic activity. A lot of these builders should build themselves into fuller better rounded people than office workers who memorized an emotional caricature they use to extract attention from others. HR, marketing, etc exist to insulate financiers, give off an air of building big ideas, but it’s layers of indirection so the financier can avoid real work. The majority don’t have to import your relative emotional context anymore than they have to import a preachers religion. That’s what’s going down with the economy; the majority are tired of the over hyped coddled office worker. This is just the start of the barnacle shedding. Source? Data models forecasting economic “plot lines” I collate with others to inform investment choices, not a bunch of high emotion semantic gibberish intended to sell me on a relative perspective. SEs and otherwise, too many are addicted to an emotional confidence game that is sapping agency in other contexts. This is low hanging fruit being shed, but ML will come for content creators and SEs sooner than most expect; it’s all electron state in machines. Generating data/code as a job will be automated; that is a stated goal of many powers that be in tech. I’m not the only one who sees it; in a 2 year old interview Gabe Newell was calling ML content creation an extinction level event that’s right around the corner. More and more “builders” of hype and ephemera are going to be receiving the wake up call as the months and years progress. Building layers of indirection as a career is not long for this world. But more simply; “software builders” is not language I see as constrained to SE. Like you said it takes a village to build a software business. I think you inferred a bit much.