> I don't understand what problem they're trying to solve Certainly, not building a website. MAYBE building certain kinds of apps, like a game or a paint app (

> I don't understand what problem they're trying to solve Certainly, not building a website. MAYBE building certain kinds of apps, like a game or a paint app (see: most action is truly on the client-side). --- I found a simple stack that is super-productive & efficient: https://tailwindcss.com https://tailwindcss.com + https://htmx.org https://htmx.org. This is, IMHO, the best way to do "normal" websites, even the ones some are tempted to get nuts with stuff like React (eCommerce, blogs, chat app,...). The best is that it actually embrace the web as-is and not requiere anything to degrade correctly.